there are 5 and they have been cleared. why are they still in jail? premium stations? they are in cages. it's your 22 year old kid. he has been arrested and interrogated and investigated and found to have an expired visa, no other crime. you always renew your plates and driver's license on time? he is locked in a cage for several months. too bad. he'll be home when the red tape is done. and he can't watch tv. too bad. you ae not allowed to visit him. too bad. your attorney can not talk to him in private. too bad. too bad. too bad.

Rick, I am sure that you are a good and caring person, but you are placing values in the wrong areas. Seat belts? Gee, I really enjoy the benefit of those things! Makes me sleep soundly at night to know that we have had a consumer advocate solve that problem. Would he make "safe bombs" or not quite so lethal naplom if he were President? Wake up and enjoy the fact that for once you have a President that represents the people of this country and has PROVEN the "pundits" wrong! I remember your post of GWB as Hitler, and wonder how you feel about that one today!

Charlie

i already apologized for my lack of taste with the hitler post. you are right (no pun intended, yes there is), the country supports him in his war effort and i support our response up to a point. nadar vs the kid, the kid was of no value as the governor of texas, and managed to give anything and everything away to corporate interests (the same people that gave so much for his campaign) (and exactly what he is doing now). so nader has as little experience running a country. the seatbelt example is just that. nadar who had no recognition, and no money did take on the automotive industry and won. we might never have had a 911 if he had been president, a post he will never hold. if however mccain had won, i don't think we would be at war now because we might not have had a 911.

You really are sick! Charlie

Rick, maybe sick is a little on the strong side, how about "misguided to a degree"? Charlie

I dont normally get involved in political arguements wiyh those have such a twisted view of things but I just find it hard to believe that there really are poeple out there who think like this. That god GWB has a good pair of ba**s and isnt afraid to to show it cj

ellesson: thanks for getting involved in the discussion. it is necessary to get involved to keep the lamp lit.