That's right if these foreigners would keep their own
house in order we wouldn't have to go over there and kick their ass. I don't care if we kill a million of them if it saves 1 American life. They asked for it and we'll oblige em. Glenn

The fued between Ironbar and Rick aside, I think this thread is a good example of Liberal Rhetoric. Rick has shown the ability to accept the fact that this war is necessary, but at the same time he belittles the efforts with cries of despair over the fact that innocent lives are being lost. Rick, we already know that. We don't have a long lived deep hatred for the Afghans. We are in support of our Country and our Armed Forces. We want the Terrorists killed or at the very least brought to justice. We are dealing with a people who don't understand "reason" or "compromise". This is the ONLY method that can produce results. To whine about the "side effects" does little to produce level headed conversation. Instead, it will prompt emotional responses. But that is why we like you. You show time and again why we don't fall for the Liberal Bull****, which is filled with Doom and Gloom. Perhaps you would like a Lawyer to sue Bin Laden for the attacks of 9-11. I support Accountability.

the war was required. the war is won in part of the world. now we will go on to destroy terrorism where ever we can. iraq and iran should be next. am i not allowed to feel compassion for the innocents, those that were murdered on september 11 by a bunch of maniacs and those in afghanistan who have gotten killed because of the war simply because they lived there?

It is certainly ok to salute a downed pilot in a dogfight or to admire the officers and men of a ship that you have sunk in warfare, but it is silly to show the same respect to a damn terrorist that is nothing more than a coward who declares war on innocent women and children by attacking our country without a declaration of war! But Clinton is not President, and they are being held accountable for their cowardly acts of agression against innocent civilians! Charlie

Thats Right! Osama and them other f_in sum biatches messed up when they thought GW was anything like that pansie A$$ Clinton or Gore.Richard...probably the only thing in this world that can bring tears to my eyes is...children suffering and I feel for the those innocents that have lost there lives in Afganistan but I'll never for the life of me understand people like you that can somehow forget the fact that we are at war.

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I am not sure what you meant by "if it were not for GW and his Daddy", are you blaming GWB and forgetting that Bill Clinton was completely "soft" on Terrorism? Please explain! Charlie

cttmr: all of our best to you. let us know when you are home and i'm sure we can take care of some of your cigar needs.
charlie: it's about oil.

Rick, last I heard there was no oil in Afghanisthan...just poppies and rocks and sand! At least under GWB, we are not sitting on our hands and settling for killing a few camels and goats! Charlie

PIPELINE!

Oh! So What? Charlie

"strange that the military that bush said was so inadequate, you know, the one that clinton ruined, was able to deploy and win so well."----the majority of the fighting has been done by Afghan anti-Taliban forces, not U.S. troops. When you gripe about the commander-in-chief with histories highest approval rating, at least do so accurately.

...and BTW, in answer to your original question, I'll gladly volunteer my counting services.

Hey newbie. First of all, THANK YOU for fighting the good fight. But I must ask what you mean when you blame the Bush's for the war. I will give you the benefit of the doubt since I'm not sure what context you intentended. I just hope it's not what I think.

Maybe it's just me, But I could have sworn I heard that the US was doing the most work, and that the Northern Alliance were just mopping up. Anyone else?

We didn't start making any headway until our Special Ops and US Military got involved on the ground! The NAF would still be "surrounding" the cities if not for US Forces. Yes, they have the most troops, but 200 or more Afghanisthan troops do not equal 1 American! Charlie

I have to agree with Delarob. I don't think I heard of any Anti-talibans dropping bombs.

I am sure that I am about to make somebody mad, but it seems to me that the only way the Middle Easterners can fight is through terrorism, since it is apparent that tactical warfare is not up to their liking! They seem to be more adept at being snipers or using bombs that are hidden on their person. These are crazed people and I would love to see us take the entire (yes all of it) Middle East and rename it New Texas or USA Middle East! Charlie

Great idea Charlie. Except only crazed people would want to live there. No wonder so many Middle Easterns are willing to die for their cause. Its a much better option then living in that area of the world.

A good point! But think of all the great golf courses that are located in Saudi Arabia and other Anericanized things that are there! Of course we would benefit by the oil and we could plow under the rest of the mess! Maybe we could turn it into prison farms and compunds like in the John Carpenter films, "Escape from New York" and "Escape from LA"! Charlie