tailgater
Friday, December 4, 2009 3:49:00 AM
They are the enemy of Obama.

According to Chris Matthews.

Matthews is a complete waste of flesh.

He's not inciteful, nor provacative, and he certainly isn't astute. How can he possilbly have such a high profile job?

He'd be a lot better if he could hide his long standing jealousy of Monica.

BiggDawg
Friday, December 4, 2009 3:56:00 AM
Matthews is an idiot, but he is entitled to his opinion (no matter how stupid it is).

If Obama was to echo the sentiment, then it would be significant.

And let's not assume that won't happen. Remember, this is the administration that proposed disbanding the Marines on the principle that the Marines were an AGGRESSIVE strike force (unlike, apparently, other branches that are more defensive?).

And let's not forget the PARTY LINE. It was the Clinton administration that went on record saying "We loathe the military."

Charlie
Friday, December 4, 2009 4:35:00 AM
Obama hates the cadets for subjecting them to that 45 minutes of drivel and nothingness that was given with such "brio" and gusto.......NOT

Charlie

Gene363
Friday, December 4, 2009 5:33:00 AM
Most of the cadets looked like someone was holding a cat turd under their nose.
DrMaddVibe
Friday, December 4, 2009 5:45:00 AM
I'm beginning to think that those "tingles" that were running up his leg weren't "tingles". I think they were Grand Mal seizures.
davidfortune
Friday, December 4, 2009 6:14:00 AM
biggdawg,

Do you have actual sources for either of those "on the record" comments from clinton administration or obama administration?

I think both are urban legends since I never heard of either of those and would think the public drama around either of those as stated public opinions of hillary, bill, barack or michelle or either administration would have been tremendous...??

I also don't think any of them are actually that naive.

GreenWolf70
Friday, December 4, 2009 6:33:00 AM
That was what the Clinton's staff, but not Bill Clinton thought of the military (although I don't think Clinton thought much either way about the military). Shortly after that became known Barry McCaffery was at the WH for a meeting when that same staff treated him with contempt. He taught them a new word...FEAR. Bill Clinton was so impressed by how McCaffery had his staff scurrying for their rat holes that he offered him a cabinet post. Anyone who has worked around BM will tell you that he can be a terror when pissed off. I believe George Stephenopolis also later related the same story of Clinton's staff raising the ire of BM on that day and how it impressed Bill Clinton.

How do I know this? I was personally told this by one of BM's staff that made the move from the military to BM's Drug Czar staff.

PecanPi1
Friday, December 4, 2009 6:44:00 AM
LMAO

Some drug czar.

nine999
Friday, December 4, 2009 6:50:00 AM
.

NINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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teedubbya
Friday, December 4, 2009 6:58:00 AM
Old news, but he did apologize and say he was wrong.

By the way.... the spin is the cadets are taught\coached not to respond to speakers. Sounds like nonsense to me.

BiggDawg
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:00:00 AM
Mr. davidfortune:

I said "Clinton administration." It was actually a quote from then 23-year old Bill Clinton's letter to to Colonel Holmes, of the University of Arkansas ROTC department on DEC. 3, 1969. It was later echoed by Robert Reisch, who became secretary of labor, and speaking for the administration. You can find the letter itself quoted in literally hundreds of places online, if you are intelligent enough, and not to lazy to do your own search.

As for the Marines, that comes directly from an aide, to a general, from LeJuene, who (for what must be obvious even to you) spoke off the record on condition of anonymity, directly to me. General got it from Commandant. Take it for what it's worth, third hand testimony.

teedubbya
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:03:00 AM
so really no validity
BiggDawg
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:07:00 AM
More validity than anything you could link to:

President

to

Commandant

to

General

to

Aide

to

Reporter.

I just reported, and I doubt that Commandant or General lied about it...

But, hey, Chris Matthews and YOU are certainly more credible.

teedubbya
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:10:00 AM
Chris Matthews is a dolt. I know nothing about it.

Neither do you. The difference is I know it, and you think you have some sort of definitive intel.

HockeyDad
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:12:00 AM
President Clinton balanced the budget by heavily cutting military funding. Some saw that as being anti-military.
BiggDawg
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:13:00 AM
I never said definitive.

Though, you can feel free to ask any one at Lejuene, if you have the testicles.

teedubbya
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:14:00 AM
you mean like the virtual testicals one gets from being "in the know"

*rolling eyes*

BiggDawg
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:14:00 AM
I thought not.
teedubbya
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:15:00 AM
you are right you did not think.
teedubbya
Friday, December 4, 2009 7:16:00 AM
I talked to someone that said GWB was really an alien.... off record of cource for obvious reasons.... everyone at the waterpark knows it if you have the intestinal fortitude to mertely ask them