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21 years ago
Anyone ever have one of these.
I have had it in the fridge for a while and deceided to taste it with a torano last night in the hot tub
very tasty stuff and veryyyyyyyyy strong
but at around 8 bucks a bottle not an every day drink
I picked 2 bottles up at a local store while they were doing tastings They said only about 20 cases had been imported to the US and they were lucky enought to get one case



TRAPPIST ALE
There are six Trappist breweries in the world, all in Belgium. They are Westmalle, Westvleteren, Chimay, Rochefort, Orval and Achel. No other breweries are entitled by law to apply that name to their product.
Between the six abbeys about 20 beers are brewed. All are top-fermenting, relatively to very strong, bottle conditioned ales.

Orval is the oldest of the brewing monasteries, founded in the 11th century by Benedictine monks. Interruptions to the monastic way of life (the French Revolution and the Napoleonic period) caused a religious exodus from France and the establishment of several Belgian abbeys in addition to those that already existed. Several of these abbeys typically began producing beer for internal use, then expanded to commercial production, selling first locally before making their beer available on a larger scale.

The term "trappist" fell into use in the years between WWI and WWII, popularized by Chimay (1850). It was there that Father Theodore and the famed brewing scientist Jean De Clerck developed much of the brewing theory that makes Trappist beers what they are.

ORVAL: The Notre-Dame d'Orval has a long history of distruction and reconstruction. The single beer they produce is probably the driest of the Trappist ales. They began brewing prior to the French Revolution, but that conflict was among the distructive events of the monestary's history.

CHIMAY: The most commercial of the Trappist brewing entities, this monestary has a history of taking beer production very seriously. After World War II the legendary brewing scientist Jean De Clerck was a major factor in re-establishing the brewery. Their 3 beers are available in a variety of sizes, including magnum bottles of Grand Reserve.

WESTMALLE: The orginator of the widely imitated triple style. The abbeys full name id Our Lady of the Sacred Heart. Founded in 1794 it began making beer in the early 19th century. Beer production became commercial in 1920.

WESTVLETEREN: The smallest producer of the brewing abbeys. Their beer is very expensive cause it you want it you have to go there - they don't ship! This is a rare example of a beer with both Trappist and abbey affiliations. St. Bernardus - formerly know as St. Sixtus - is made by a secular brewer under the licsence of the Abbey of St. Sixtus in the town of Westvleteren. Confusingly, the abbey of St. Sixtus makes the Westvleteren ales in a Trappist capacity, but not St. Sixtus ales!

ROCHEFORT: Actually known as Notre-Dame de Saint-Remy (located neat the southern town of Rochefort), this monestary began brewing in 1595 - that's quite a heritage! Their 3 beers are ale dark and fairly sweet ales.

ACHEL: This newest Trappist brewery resembles a brewpub. It has a cafeteria line where you get your food and beer and tables both inside and on the outdoor patio. Father Thomas of Westmalle started the brewery, the current brewer is Brother Jules. When Achel first became available the general buzz was that it was clearly the inferior Trappist ale. But it did not take long for that to change, favor for this one has been steadily increasing. Now-a-days there is no shortage of praise for Achel. It took even God more than one day to get it all right!

ABBEY ALES
Though only five Trappist breweries still exist in Belgium, the number used to be greater. The last to cease production was the Benedictine monastery at Affligem (during WWII). "Yeah, but I can still buy Affligem" you might say, and you'd be right. Their classic Doubles and Tripples are still made by the De Smedt brewery under license of Affligem. Abbey ale is a term associated with beer brewed by non-monastic types, frequently under such a license. These beers cannot be called "Trappist", but usually derive their name from a shrine or a church or some other religious icon. It is typical for abbey ale to mimmik the styles of Trappist beer. Doubles and triples, such as appear in Westmalle's line, are very popular. Some beers, like St. Bernardus, are more similar to the dark, profoundly powerful brews of Rochefort and Westvleteren.

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EI
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21 years ago
and better than corona LOL
Don Johnson
21 years ago


Ahh!!! The Belgian Ales. One of my favorite drinks. Here in Seattle I am known for my versions of my abbey ales.
And a very informative write up on them.

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Homebrew
21 years ago
This post made me thirsty,
I had to grab an Abbey Ale, to go with lunch. I am going to go with Corsendonk brown ale. This is one of the few comercially available beers, that I still drink. I brew most of the stuff I drink. LOL
Great info
Thanks
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
kornazoo
21 years ago
Mmmmm Westvleteren.....I'm lucky. I live in Phill, where more Belguim Beer is sold than any where else, including any city in Belguim...Try Westvleteren Abt 12, or N'ice Chouffe(barley wine)...or Urthel 12, etc.. Once you start on this type of real beer, you can never drink Bud, Coors, or any Lite Beers...
THL
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21 years ago
Great stuff! Where did you find it? That liquor store next to the Chop House has a pretty good selection of these.
EI
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21 years ago
THL, This was up in Westminster next to the Giant
Cranberry liquors

They have wine and beer tasting there on occasions

I just happened in to buy a cigar (they have a humidor also) and they were giving out sips in very little cups

When the guy said $8 a bottle I hedged but the wife said go ahead and buy a couple
This was several months ago so I doubt they have any left

On the topic of beers Have you ever been to Klingers in Hanover?
They have over 1600 differnent bottles and several on tap at any one time
If you join a tasters club they stamp your book and if you drink a lot you can have a brew from a micro brewery named after you... I think only one guy has done that.
They have a lot of wine beers that are about 14% alcohol and have a taste more like wine than beer
vfrtwice
21 years ago
funny EI.. lol got a new post coming just for you haa haa. trade you a case of Corona for a 5er HAA HAAAAAAAA
YOU GUYS ARE GREAT.. you make work go a bit faster.
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21 years ago
Yeah, Cranberry has a good selection too and yes I have been to Klingers. Though, that's a good ride for me without a designated driver. If your last name is Yuengling will they name a beer after you? lol
EI
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21 years ago
or if your nam happens to be sam adams I think your SOL
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Club3006
21 years ago
EI:

I used to call on Cranberry when I worked as a salesman for Churchill Distributors(1998-ish). The beer manager really knew his stuff and was super cool. The wine manager (can't remember her name) was a real Cee-yoU-iN-Toledo!! Please tell her Craig from Churchill says, "Hello." I'm sure she's long since forgotten about lil' ole me, but she certainly hasn't escaped my memory!

Craig(MD)
eric1989
21 years ago
I've been to Holland and Belgium. Lots of good beer, but I am not a fan of the Trappist ales that are over 6 percent alcohol. Too hot, thick and syruppy. No balance or elegence. If you like higher alcohol levels, I'd suggest wine.
My favorite beers are Polish pilsners. Love the malty, not too hoppy or hot, balanced and clean finish. Zwiechz (spelling?) (zee-vee-ets) is my favorite.
tailgater
21 years ago
I'm partial to Ales, but a good pilsner may be my favorite type of beer. Problem is, most Pilsners suck.

My all time favorite American version of a real Pilsner is Schell's Pils, from the Schell's brewery in New Ulm, Minnesota.
It's the only bottle I've been able to purchase state side that comes close to those in Germany or Holland.

It's not shipped east of the Mississippi, so I've been out of luck for a little while. Ah, but absence makes the heart grow fonder...
gerber
21 years ago
One of my favorite local eateries, The Stuffed Sandwich, is also famous for their unparalelled beer inventory, and Belgian beers are one of their specialities. If you're ever in the east Los Angeles area and love beer and sandwiches, it would be worth going out of your way for a visit.

Here's a link to their beer menu (their actual selection is actually much larger--they keep all kinds of really rare beers out of sight for true aficianadoes.) The owners, Sam and Marla, were both in the beer industry before opening the place years ago:

http://www.stuffedsandwich.com/beer_menu_pg_1.htm 
EI
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21 years ago
On the subject of beers
Does anyone make dry beer anymore
I use to love Old Dutch Dry
and then in the late 80's Bud had a Bud Dry but I can't find it anymore around Maryland
andytv
21 years ago
Dry Beer? I've got some. I'll send you as much as you want in return for some ISOMs.

I remember the dry beers, but I really never knew much about them, or how to make them.

Mmmmmmmmmm............belgian ales. The only problem I've have with many belgian trappist ales is a huge headache 4-5 hours after drinking. These are often spontaneously fermented with wild yeasts, and I think a significant amount of fusel oils/alcohol is created this way (these are what gives you the "budweiser head-spike".

The trappists also have an intriguing history, their role in the progression of Christianity throughout Europe is pretty interesting. Ya ought to check that out!

EI
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21 years ago
I have to agree with the raging headache at least with the CHIMAY I tried.
Woke up in the middle of the night with a migraine that would drop a buffalo

I had a few other drinks that night (wine with dinner and a bourbon after) so I can't really say it was the ale.
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