Cousin_Eddie
Monday, April 26, 2010 6:08:00 AM
seems to be working only 117 homicides since Jan.
DrMaddVibe
Monday, April 26, 2010 6:09:00 AM
Use both hands
TMCTLT
Monday, April 26, 2010 6:22:00 AM
Death rates will never drop anywhere where there is gun control. The criminals never turn theirs in..........
HockeyDad
Monday, April 26, 2010 6:24:00 AM
Negotiate with the criminals with no preconditions.
Cousin_Eddie
Monday, April 26, 2010 6:24:00 AM
Extend and unclench your fist and the criminals will go get jobs.
C99scrog
Monday, April 26, 2010 10:41:00 AM
I wonder where the criminals get the guns.
MACS
Monday, April 26, 2010 10:43:00 AM
Duh. They steal them! They're criminals.
DrafterX
Monday, April 26, 2010 10:44:00 AM
their mamas....
C99scrog
Monday, April 26, 2010 10:48:00 AM
I figured they bought them from unregistered owners via pawn shops. That's how I would do it.

It's kind of a circle. Fraidy-cat gun owners that think the govt wants their guns buy at gun shows or from friends and don't register their guns. They need money one day or someone that they gifted the gun to does and it goes to a pawn shop or private sale. Eventually the gun ends up unregistered in some criminals hands in the inner city and said criminal kills another criminal. But it happens in the city so much like the dude that dumps his antifreeze down the drain, he never realizes the ****storm he's causing down river.

DrafterX
Monday, April 26, 2010 10:55:00 AM
ya... it's the honest guys fault.. I suppose banning all guns is the answer right..??
C99scrog
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:00:00 AM
no, why would we want to ban all guns? That would be silly.

Please don't assume because I see things from a different angle that you and I MUST be polar opposites. Free your mind, bro.

DrafterX
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:06:00 AM
the last time I bought a gun from a pawn shop I had to do the background check thing.. no criminals are getting guns from there. gun shows do have a few private collection sellers but for the most part you have to do the background check there also... I see guns for sale in the newspaper almost every week tho.. not going to stop a criminal from buying a gun anymore than you can stop him from stealing your car...
bloody spaniard
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:14:00 AM
12. Author: DrafterX Date: 04/26/2010 03:06 PM Reply

the last time I bought a gun...

Don't know what's scarier, Drafter squinting with his tongue out & his finger on a trigger or a criminal buying a gun.

That does it & I'm pro gun control as of right now.

C99scrog
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:15:00 AM
Total agreed. I am definately not for taking guns as I enjoy them and own them. I used to collect paramilitary guns, but now no longer have them. A simple shotgun, a pistol, and a long rifle are all I really "want" around now.

I do believe that we need tighter gun control laws. I don't fear someone taking my guns from me, and I laugh at those that do. If the govt wants to take my guns, they can have them. I won't resist much. Not against our Army will I EVER fight. I'll go to the woods and wolverine my way thru life if I have to.

By tighter gun control, I mean we need to figure out a way to STOP the guns from reaching the inner city. I've read on this forum posters bragging about how they don't register their guns, and will hide them if they must. It pesters me because these are the very irresponsible owners that are potentially contributing to violent crime with unregistered guns that they eventually sell and this is why some folks see a need for tighter controls. In other words, it's these gun owning rebelious fools that are causing ME to potentially lose my right to guns.

Join the NRA, register ALL your guns, and then be a good citizen. That's all.

andytv
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:21:00 AM
Around here, all legally purchased firearms must be registered to the buyer, and that requires a background check.

Someone told me about some loopholes, but for the most part that's how it goes down.

Even if I were inclined to sell an unregistered firearm; I would certainly require that it be registered to the buyer so that if it were used in a crime it could not be traced back to me.

I'd say most guns used by criminals are;

1) Stolen

2) Registered to themselves or to family/friends.

3) Older guns that were purchased prior to the current laws.

Criminals will always have access to firearms because the populace by and large do not want gun control laws that would limit ownership to law abiding citizens........because this would require that all of the guns in circulation be brought forward and registered.

C99scrog
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:24:00 AM
If all guns were to brought foward and registered, do you see any chance that over time this would lessen gun crime? I do.
nir6van6a
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:29:00 AM
REgistering guns is essentially putting yourself on a list of people to disarm first if anything ever happens. I do not own a single gun that is registered and never will. Having to get the stupid FOID card is bad enough for me. Gun ownership is right, and so is anonymity. Do I fear that in my lifetime I will need to be armed for war or revolutions sake? No, not at all. Do I think that during the lifetime of gun, 1-200 years, it will? Possibly. I want my kids and my grand kids to have guns that the government cannot take away from them. I know that sounds paranoid, but it is the intent of the 2nd amendment.
DrafterX
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:34:00 AM
not all guns need to be registered... but any gun will work in a crime.. can always saw off the barrel and stock of a shotgun if needed...
C99scrog
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:35:00 AM
Inner city gang bangers think just like you.

You're part of the problem, and not the solution.

Do you also refuse to register your car? If you do not register your guns, you are a criminal. No better than a street punk with baggy pants on the corner. Stop f*cking up my right to bear arms, and register your guns dammit.

C99scrog
Monday, April 26, 2010 11:36:00 AM
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