Buckwheat
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 9:18:00 AM
This should be the only scientific theory taught in our schools. How can you have a scientific theory without the hand of God being involved? Some people are just blind.
lofty1
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 9:28:00 AM
fishin'?

Thom
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 9:47:00 AM
Huh?
MACS
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 9:51:00 AM
The existence of God is basically a theory. Why do you think it's called "FAITH"?

It can't be proven. Either for or against.

Buckwheat
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 9:55:00 AM
Matthew 4:18
MACS
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 9:59:00 AM
That's us Buckwheat... Simon and Peter.

I'll be Simon. Not too fond of the name Peter.

BeatDragon
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 10:04:00 AM
Yes, it is a fact that a percentage of the population is indeed blind.
Buckwheat
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 10:05:00 AM
Funny that you mention this. I was almost named Peter. Think about how this would appear on a military uniform with my last name and you can see why I was given my grandfather's name (which my grandfather paid my father $100 to do).
BLISTER
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 10:52:00 AM
Religion has NO business being taught in science class
Buckwheat
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:06:00 AM
But can't evolution be considered a "science" based on faith since you can not directly observe evolution? Is there really a difference in the "leap of faith" required for evolutionary science and Intelligent Design?
bassdude
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:09:00 AM
I work with a guy named Peter Eaton - real funny when he gets paged overhead.
BLISTER
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:11:00 AM
Actually you could "observe" evolution with samples of DNA of fossils. You could actually see mutations on the DNA string as time elapses.

It's no coincidence that humans and chimpanzees have DNA that is 99.9% identical.

Krubs
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:28:00 AM
I apologize for getting off the subject at hand, but then again, it's not really off the subject at hand.

For those who consider themselves fairly open-minded, and are intellectually curious about this, then go to this web site and click on the "Intervention" tab.

www.lloydpye.com

Be forewarned, it may be a bit time consuming to digest, but it's very thought provoking without being insane.

Seems to fill in some holes in both evolution theory and creationism with another angle thrown in for interest.

TBWCW
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:33:00 AM
"Actually you could "observe" evolution with samples of DNA of fossils. You could actually see mutations on the DNA string as time elapses."

Please provide a link to back up this claim. Thanks.

"It's no coincidence that humans and chimpanzees have DNA that is 99.9% identical."

That's an interesting assertion. I thought to strict Darwinists everything was strictly coincidental (i.e. accidental, without purpose or meaning).

Buckwheat
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:35:00 AM
I don't think that mutation and evolution (and/or national selection are the same). Evolution is a theory that the various types of animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations (m-w.com). In the classical sense evolution happens to species over long periods of time. Mutations occur to single cells (or small groups of cells) over a short period of time. I know that this is a debate over macro and micro evolution theory, however, I still think that there is a "leap of faith" required to go from a micro observed cellular mutation and a macro species event like evolution.
lofty1
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:43:00 AM
so, buckwheat, you don't believe there are changes to a species that occur to the entire species and change forever how that species is identified? i'm not trying to be a jerk. i'm just trying to understand what you're saying.
Buckwheat
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 11:57:00 AM
Loft, yes and no. Yes, I believe that there are changes that have occurred to an entire species that redefines that species (even though no examples come to mind). And no, because species change from an evolutionary perspective is not a singular change. We don’t call Dobermans and Dachshunds different species. Nor do we call mutations in a single species a change to another different species. Mutation is, at best, just one "method" of evolution. Mutation (by it's self) is not evolution.
AVB
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Wednesday, August 3, 2005 12:14:00 PM
Intelligent Design is being put to the test in my neck of the woods. You have only to look at the people on the school board to see it is a fallacy. They and the school system are going to get their asses sued off and it will only hurt the whole educational system.
BLISTER
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 12:15:00 PM
I'm sorry. Human and Chimpanzee DNA are over 98.5% identical

http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Dec03/chimp.life.hrs.html 

Buckwheat
Wednesday, August 3, 2005 12:19:00 PM
I'm no ape. I'm more of a hairless orangutan.