I just received this: Hillary Clinton, as a New York Senator, now comes under this fancy Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan. This means that even if she never gets re-elected, she still receives her Congressional salary until she dies. If Viagra Bill outlives her, he then inherits said salary until he dies. Of course, he is already receiving his Presidential salary until he dies and Hillary gets that if she outlives him. Guess who pays for all of this? AND....she wants to run for President!

The USA will paying for the Clinton's and their lifestyles for many years, in more ways than one! Too damn bad that they both had to get elected! Charlie

Meanwhile, I've got torn ligaments in my wrist that I can't afford to piss away over $1400.00 on for an MRI, not to mention surgery ($2500.00 deductible and we're never sick)...being 'self-employed' sure has it's 'benefits' - HAH!

She can go to Hell, if you believe in it! I do...I'm in medical Hell right now! If they BOTH die, are we off the hook?

Yes, since the angelic little child, is over 21! Charlie

Even though Clinton was a scummer in some of the things he did, he was a damn good president. He did a lot for this country. Dont mention all that fooling around crap as an argument either because it does not have any bearing on the job he did. People get hung up on that garbage way too much.

Hey, no one complained when the country did well for the 8 years he was in office. He passed more helpful laws and legislature than any other president in history. Go argue with the records on that one. I dont think he was an angel or a great guy to have as a husband (im a guy and wouldnt know how it would be to have a husband anyway) but as long as he did his job for this country and makes it a better place for us to live (which he did) I dont give a s*it whose mouth his schlong was in.

My family and welfare of this country are my first priorities. He did a damn good job and I dare you to find a president who did better. Who did better?? I dont play favorites or have a political party remotely. I am in no way a partisan person AT ALL. I give credit where credit is due. I hate Hillary though. Shes a snake as* whose trying to use the senate as a step to the presidency. She only stayed with Bill anyway to get there. You think she still loves him??

If Clinton ran for office again, I'd vote for him 100 times more. He kept this country in excellent shape and got us out of a recession in the early 90's. Look where we are now. I think that Bush is doing a great job with what he has, but I would want Clinton back anyday.

By the way, Chelsea is a canine. Had to throw that in.

daveyg2 ---you did not have to mention the daughter who has no part in any of the politics. --- i agree with everything you said including bush is doing the best with what he has, which is nothing.---- hilary is entirely to full of herself and the likelihood of her getting on the ticket for president is less than slim to none.

Todog: they all get pensions forever. dol's wife receives a pension from the government and the red cross. don't forget the senators who resigned in disgrace still get there pensions.

I had to mention her because shes heinous looking. She needs some serious help.

RICKAMAVEN & Daveyg2... Man, after reading your e-mails between each other about the Bill Clinton I have a suggestion. You both should agree to meet somewhere and exchange bodily fluids and get it over with. I wonder how it is to live in such delusional state you both reside in.

You both are CLUELESS when it comes to our Government and the Economy. The Executive branch has very little to do with the success of the economy. This is really determined by the Congress and the Federal Reserve. During economic growth experienced during the Clinton years, the Republicans controlled congress. If you were smart enough to look at the growth of the economy during the Clinton years you would see the majority of the economic growth was in step with when the Republicans had the majority in Congress. They passed laws that the investing communities supported which resulted in consumer confidence (i.e. Welfare Reform and the Balanced Budget legislation) and more investing and buying. The Fed Reserve provided low interest rates which also keep more money rolling into business for expansion and hiring.

THE only thing Clinton did was get out of the way and ride the wave (among other things). He now takes credit for the economy and worked against the main legislations that created conditions for the economy to soar. When he signed the Welfare Reform Bill he stated that ..." it goes to far...” and when he signed the Balanced Budget legislation he stated that it was ".financially irresponsible and balancing the budget on the backs of the poor...”. You can't name ONE thing that Clinton proposed, championed and then got congress to pass into law that was great for our country. The only thing that he and Hilary tried to get passed was government run healthcare which was a Disaster. He was SCUM before he was President Womanizer, Draft Dodger, and Lier), he was SCUM while he was President (THE MOST CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION IN US HISTORY) and he is still SCUM.

Anyway back to my original point. You both should meet and do the dirty deed and bask afterglow the feeling that Liberals like your selves are trying to realize by trying to F*** our Country with your warped agenda (Can you say Pledge of Allegiance)

So what you’re saying GT is that it was the Republican congress that passed all the business friendly laws that made the boom in the economy happen. Fine, then I guess these same laws would be responsible for the “business friendly” way in which a few executives were allowed to get insanely rich while working for companies like Tyco, Enron, WorldCom, and others, while of course completely F***ING over thousands of employees and thousands of investors who lost their shirts in the aforementioned companies collapse. Great, now I know who to thank. If you don't think this entire system is corrupt and in need of a serious overhaul, wake up and look around you. As an aside, I do know how to say the Pledge of Allegiance, unlike those morons in the House who had to run outside and say it after the court ruling. If you see the beginning of the video, half the members were looking around, mouthing words that didn’t match the pledge because THEY HAD NO CLUE HOW IT GOES!

CCBAXTER... I don't think any new laws were passed by the Republicans that allowed these crooks to screw everyone. If this was the case the Dems. would have already had numerous press conferences to point this out to everyone. There is no question that there is something wrong with a financial reporting system that allows publicly traded company executives to do this. There should be real long jail time for the executives, accountants and lawyers involved. So, to your point it's a real stretch to try and tie the Republicans to these scandals.

US Grant thanks God that he created Bill Clinton so that Grant is no longer looked upon as the worst President to ever occupay the White House! What laughable crap you guys can post about Clinton and then say, his personal life doesn't matter. He was by far the worst and we will be paying his overhyped ass forever! Charlie

Likewise GT, I think it’s a real stretch to try to pin all kinds of crap on Slick Willie. The real problem is that both parties are two sides of the same coin. We are fooling ourselves to believe that we really are choosing between two candidates with discernable differences. The business of this government is business, and to hell with the regular people. Here in MN we voted in Jesse Ventura for Governor 4 years ago. He was the wrong guy to try to start a third party movement, but he sure did throw a monkey wrench into political business as usual. What we found out is that the R’s and D’s have nothing to offer but a whole bunch of finger pointing and lip service.

Do you think that the Executive branch has no control over trade agreements, tarriffs and other economy controling factors? You really dont know much huh? Talk all you want about the Federal Reserve and how it controls ALL of the economy in this country. Evidently you dont realize that it only controls the interest that a bank can put on loans and things of that nature. Why dont you get educated and then tell me what the fluids I can exchange will do for you and your family.

Daveyg2, Slick Willy simply was in the right place at the right time. Can you say "Republican controlled Congress"? They were responsible for all of the wonderful legislation that was passed during this period that you speak. Can you say dot.com? Clinton, again, was in the right place at the right time with the economic boom! I only disagree with one of the responses to your post about Clinton's administration being the most corrupt in history. I think that Nixon still has dibs on that one with Clinton a close second!

GT, First, Republicans (as a party) are scumbags just as the Democrats (as a party) are scumbags. I think that its pretty weak to take a side in politics and run with the big parties. If someone in that party is not all you like from a candidate, then you still are obligated to promote him/her. Why dont you look at each person for what they offer instead of jumping in with a majority so you look bigger than you are. Use you own judgement instead of the judgement of your "friends" and get a friggin life.

Good thread. We all know that both parties have their share of losers and scumbags. The overall picture, however, is the general party line: Republicans want "pro business" legislation in order to improve the economy. Call it "Trickle down" or whatever, the result is the same. More profits = more employed. The Dems want "feel good" legislation to help the meek. In theory, a great cause, but we're getting to a point where the recipients will outweigh the tax payers. The Dems have made it evil to turn a profit, and the news media eat it up. Let's face it, the Enron execs didn't get rich because of Republican enforced laws. They got rich because they BROKE the laws. And they will serve a LONG time in jail. Unless a liberal lawyer can get them off...

Todog, Clintons was the most corrupt in history? Reagan was a shining star, let me tell you. Nixon was superb in the way he was basically fired. Kennedy was a real straight guy, thats why he was killed by God knows who. I mean please! The list goes on. The guy banged a fat chick and a couple of decent looking broads. His wife is obviously the reason why. He should have divorced her sorry as* a long time ago so he wouldnt have to get BJ's from cows.



Keep giving me crappy reasoning why he was terrible. The republican congress you talk about was only a part of the game, not the whole. you make it sound like they control all. if democrats were in you would be bitching how this country is going to hell. Trent Lot is really a straight honest guy. You really have some good looking around to do. Its all so friggin corrupt you wouldnt know what to do with yourself if you were behind closed door with your favorite republican congressman. same for the democrats. Get off the party line already.

GT, by the way. I just actually finished reading your babbling rant and let me tell you something. The ONLY THING that keeps this economy going is comsumer confidence and consumer spending. Thats the ONLY thing that keeps business going. thats the ONLY thing that promotes business (or there wouldnt be businesses to sell things). You really arent very intelligent. economics will prove that the biggest and most important factor in the economy is the people in this country that buy things.

Now, i dont have an agenda you republican garbage. talk about an agenda. you want to know what my agenda is? its seeing that even schmucks like you have a job and are able to afford cigars to smoke. dont put words in my mouth just because you dont know how to use yours. You want me to name one thing that Clinton passed? O.K. a tax break for College students and tuition reimbursement. without that, there are a lot of college kids who cant afford to go. is that a simple enough example for a simple mind? dont call me names when the only fool here is you.