Unions should be destroyed. there is no more disgusting than a person who has more rights than someone else because he pays some money every month. Its actually the biggest organized crime in the world. Making sure you do a good job is what should keep your job intact, not paying some gangsters to make sure you keep a job.

CCBaxter, it wasnt a big section of people that actually knew what was going on. Just because one govt moron slipped doesnt mean that they slip every time. some of the men who were key and all knowing that were working on the project were killed shortly after. did you know that? because thre were 10,000 people making the parts to a space shuttle, there were 5000 people at the controls at NASA and there were some other thousand people doing some other garbage in the project, doesnt mean that ANY of those people had the information of what went on. It only needed to be a small few people to pull it off. I dont believe in a lot of conspiracy garbage, but i believe that could have happened. it was our governments stake at the worlds superpower.

there are too many other elements involved in why they really couldnt have gone there. why havent we been back? why hasnt there been any photographs of the flag on the moon since we went? we can see other galaxys with telescopes, but they claim to not be able to see that because its too far. the technology they have is unparalleled with any other country in the world for years to come. whats easier, building machines and other devices to go millions of miles to another rock in space thats blocked by deadly radiation and other factors, or staging a landing with some cameras and doing a crappy job at that. There is so much evidence that shows a hoax its riddiculous. even the makers of the cameras they used said himself that the pics seemed doctored. its really bad. i have the tape that shows it. EVERY SINGLE PERSON that i showed this tape now believes otherwise. Even me. I never would have thought that.

40 years later, we still or anyone on this planet, hasnt gone back. Our technology is so far advanced past what we had, and we still havent gone back. There are NO pictures of equipment left there and NASA has said that themselves. They claim that it is "too far to accurately depict"

Sorry for the 100 time posting. CC, the sources of the info are VERY credible. They include, people that DID work on the project, the makers of the equipment, relatives of people that worked on it, special effects experts( same people that have done Jurassic Pk, T2 and other HUGE movies), physics professors and experts and MANY other experts. Its really some thing to see and think about.

daveyg2 --- no moon landing? you mean the rock i won at auction is a fake?

CCBAXTER ---yes and oswall was the lone gunman. didn't you watch x files?---"their here aren't they?"---they've been here."

Charlie-----
"We shouild just simply take the entire Middle East and call it New Texas or Was There's and do what the Romans did to Carthage, plough it under and salt it" yes, yes, yes.--- i knew there was a side of you that i liked.

daveyg2 ---please send me a dupe of the tape. i love conspiracies.--- they keep me going. --- email me and i'll give you my address. [email protected].

Well guys for every point you make to prove the moon landing was a hoax, there is conflicting proof that it was a real event. So instead of going back and forth here, let’s all meet up here next year. By then the Japanese spacecraft, SELENE, will have begun its one year mission of orbiting and mapping the moon in preparation for eventual manned landing on the moon by Japan. Japan has a thirty year plan for permanent manned presence on the moon. Then I guess we’ll all know if it was a fake or not. As to the most commonly asked question: “How come we never went back?” It’s really pretty simple; there was no political will, and no real scientific reason why we should go back. We had finished what we had to do there, and were getting ready to move on to the “Space Truck”, the shuttle. If you remember by the mid seventies congress was hitting NASA pretty hard about spending all that dough, and what were we getting from manned space flight and blah, blah, blah, so NASA redefined it’s mission and off we went to near earth orbit with the shuttle and now the ISS. Kinda boring in comparison, but the good news is DS1 is an unqualified success, so the ION drive testing continues, once that’s finished it’s off to Mars! No, for real this time! LOL

the only reason we used a manned flight to the moon was and is because the public is not really interested so much in the scientific discoveries as the adventure. send a toy to the moon, so what. send a man to the moon, better than football. nascar or any sport. that was the reason for the manned flight. i personally could care less that there may have been life, or water, or an arby's on mars. kids in this country go to bed hungry. besides, when the guys in the saucers land and say howdy, they can tell us.

The moon mission was mankind's single, most significant advancement of the 20th Century and one of a handful of the greatest advancements EVER ... the knowledge that was gained and the various applications to which it has been applied in the years since then justify not only the budgets spent then, but more now ... it's no secret that I'm politically pretty conservative, but will tell you that Kennedy's announced goal of landing a man on the moon did more to galvanize the minds and resources of this country than anything else since WWII and with clearly greater long-term benefit ... I greatly admire Kennedy for the bold vision he exhibited in stating that goal and in martialing the resources needed to accomplish it ...

I completely agree with you Steve. A human being setting foot on another planet will go down as a transcending moment in human history. It truly is a moment unequalled in the course of human achievement.
Rick-Kids do go to bed hungry in this country, but one thing has nothing to do with the other. If we truly had an interest in doing away with poverty in this country and this world, we could. We just don’t have the will to do it. To imply that kids go hungry because there is money spent on spaceflight is a non sequitur.

CCBAXTER ---. "If we truly had an interest in doing away with poverty in this country and this world, we could. We just don’t have the will to do it."--aye, there's the rub.

I believe it was Jackie Gleason who first envisioned the trip to the moon...

tailgater---nice to see you respond with humor.

Honestly, I dont think that because a man said that we were going to the moon, means that we were going to the moon. Science is my reason for an argument, not unrealistic and popularity enhancing political dreaming.

Think as you will ... I have no doubts at all that the moon missions were authentic, that the benefits of the space program have been spectacularly numerous and beneficial to each and every one of us ...

I think that the missions were real. I can't see that large of a hoax standing the test of time as it has. Also would be quite a risk if the American people found out in those days, it would have been disaterous. All that for bragging rights. . . . I doubt it.

Rick, you just aren't listening hard enough. Davey, name ONE piece of "evidence" that the moon landing was hollywood magic.

If we didn't go to the moon then the Apollo 13 drama was pure genius. Why would the Gov. fabricate a failure? Hmmm because failure shows realism and credibility? Nope the flag is on the moon. The scientist who does the Bad Astronomy website goes over the argument point by point. He is very persuasive and, I think, right.