Slimboli
24 years ago
After approximately three to four minutes (some claim it's 6-9 minutes), the beans will enter a stage called first crack (a small snapping sound emitted from the bean as it increases in temperature). This depends on what method (or roaster) you use. Let the beans completely finish the first crack stage, this is what is considered a light or city roast. It's also called the New England Roast. The second crack is when you have hit the dark roast stage...This is called the Full City Roast.

Let the roasted beans stand for at least four hours before grinding, this lets the Co2 gas off.

All methods of roasting produces chaff and smoke, especialy in the darker roasts. Don't worry about this but instead take measures to control these two by-products. Kitchen fans work great for the smoke, or you can roast beside a window or outside. Very cold temperatures can affect the ability of the roasters to achieve the proper temp. Chaff can also be contained with a bit of planning. Manufactured roasters have chaff collecting features built in. If you use one of the above mentioned methods, roasting outside or in the garage may be the best solution.



I have found that the Hearthware is very sensitive to changes in the WEIGHT of the green coffee you use in a batch. You must weigh (or use their included measuring cup) the coffee, and be consistent!



Links to Roasters Alpenroast and Hearthware are two leading manufacturers.



In a nutshell, here is the roasting process you will be observing, using the Alpenrost:




For the first 5 minutes the bean remains greenish, then turn lighter and emit a grassy smell.



The beans start to steam as their internal water content dissipates.



The steam becomes fragrant. At around 15 minutes on the Alpenrost you will hear the "first crack," an audible cracking sound as the real roasting starts to occur: sugars begin to carmelize, bound-up water escapes, the structure of the bean breaks down and oils migrate from their little pockets outward.



After the first crack, the roast can be considered complete any time according to your taste. The cracking is an audible cue, and, along with sight and smell, tells you what stage the roast is at.



Carmelization continues, oils migrate, and the bean expands in size as the roast becomes dark.



At this point a "second crack" can be heard, often more volitile than the first. Small pieces of the bean are sometimes blown away like shrapnel! It can be more difficult to hear than the first crack though. This happens around 19 minutes on my Alpenrost. The cooling cycle begins when you hear the sound of the Alp. vent doors click open.



As the roast becomes very dark, the smoke is more pungent (oils burn against the hot surfaces of the roast chamber) as sugars burn completly, and the bean structure breaks down more and more.



Eventually, the sugars burn completely, and the roast will only result in thin-bodied cup of "charcoal water."
Slimboli
24 years ago
Here is the link to ALPENRöST.

They are a little pricy ... but it is one of the best home roasters on the market. They also are on sale, and offer free shipping. It also has the largest capacity, ½ pound. For beginners, I would suggest the Heartware ... it works fine.

You may want to go with Sweet Maria's as is is slightly cheaper, and they offer their double 8-Pack Green Coffee Sampler: That's their selection of 8 types, 1 full pound each with the roaster.
jjohnson28
24 years ago
Note:A buddy of mine has the Alpenrost and says he has problems with the smaller beans(peaberry and maghndeling(sp) getting stuck in the screen mesh causing those beans to burn.For large batch coffee rosting a lot of people swear by the whirley pop manual popcorn poppers?Just take an hr or so and really read the SW site.
GetYourOwn
24 years ago
I was gonna leave the coffee thing alone but it was renewed.
You guys sound like serious coffee drinkers. I only use it when I am very sleepy. There is a guy at my workplace that drinks coffee a lot. He uses a cup that he has never washed or rinsed out. He drinks his last cup of the day and leaves about 1/2 inch in the bottom. He does not pour that out. He starts his next day with that goop in the bottom.
This guy and others at my workplace do not think of coffee as you guys do.
Slimboli
24 years ago
Hot Air Popcorn Poppers are a very common household appliance and provides an excellent, almost fool proof method for roasting coffee.

If you decide to use this method keep in mind, hot air poppers are not recommended by the manufacturers for roasting coffee and doing so is at your own risk.


Warning -- Poppers with the hot air inlet through a screen in the bottom of the popping chamber are unworkable for roasting coffee. The beans don't circulate enough and it tends to scorch the beans resting on the bottom while leaving the rest unroasted.


Poppers with the hot air inlet positioned around the sides of the popping chamber work great. The air enters through louvered slots cut at angles and positioned on the sides of the chamber. This is the type of popper that seems to work the best. The beans circulate well, don't seem to scorch and you end up with a good flavor in the cup. Check yours out before you start!


Pour the same amount of green coffee beans into the popping chamber as the recomended amount of popcorn (usually 1/4 to 1/3 cup)and start the popper. Watch, listen and smell and when the desired roast is achieved and then pour the beans into a colander to cool. Put a bowl under the spout where the popcorn normally comes out to catch the chaff.

Note: Popcorn Poppers have to be watched more carefully, as they tend to heat up much hotter!

Popcorn poppers used in this fashion achieve a very high temperature and should never be left unattended. Let the roasted beans stand for at least four hours before grinding, this lets the Co2 gas off.
cliffie3d
24 years ago
HEY, at Sweet Maria's, they have the Hearthware Gourmet roaster and also, for the same price, the Freshroast Plus roaster. Which one is better?
Slimboli
24 years ago
The 'Fresh Roast Plus' is the newest model. Sounds like it could be better than the older one.

Why don't you be the 'guinea pig' ... and give it a 'test drive'? We all anxiously wait your review ... 😉
Mr.Mean
24 years ago
They do a comparison on the web site stating the newer one runs hotter therefore roasts faster with a question on throughout roasting of the bean.
Mr.Mean
24 years ago
If I were Slim, I'd cut and paste it. But I'm not, so I will leave that to the professionals.
jjohnson28
23 years ago
Topped for Skatty
redsquid
23 years ago
Yer bringin' a tear tho the eye of a lifelong 'Mother Earth News' devotee. We used to raise ducks and geese in VERY suburban neighborhood east of Seattle. My brother roasts his own beans, but considering our location, there are too many good places that roast on site to make it worth my while. Kind of like deciding to roll your own cigar in Ybor city or Havana (I've seen a number of kits though). Also you should try the beans they harvest 'indirectly'. Theres someplace where an animal (can't remember if it's a chinchilla, or a flying monkey or something) that eats the coffee cherry and excretes the bean. The natives collect the turd beans, and they go for about 70$ a pound.
chipslave
23 years ago
Yep... Its called Kopi Luwak and goes for about $110 unroasted. Its a small cat called a paradoxurus that climbs the trees and eats the ripest cherries.

"It tastes a bit nutty" -Austin Powers 😉
Slimboli
23 years ago
Kopi Luwak sells for $75 per quarter pound ... and one of our esteemed and well respected members here had the courage to try it ...

... that was a year or two ago, I believe!
redsquid
23 years ago
Yeah, what they said.
cccbus
23 years ago
ok...ok...you guys talked me into the fresh roast plus from marias is about to be ordered along withsome green beans LOL. This whould be as much fun as me making my own brew...;-)
remington850
23 years ago
How did this get under the cigars board? Slim are you slipping?
Slimboli
23 years ago
This thread is almost a year old ... 07/18/2002 ... and fresh roasted, ground and brewed coffee goes well with a good cigar!

I have one with my coffee every morning ...
cccbus
23 years ago
OK...OK...I will start rolling my own cigars. I think I shoul have enough from all the leaves I get from those boxes of def seas ought to be able to soak em and roll em. LOL...now that will be a site to see. I think I need to stop drinking coffee now...take a break and eat another doughnut. LOL
Slimboli
23 years ago
Lowman just about cleaned me out ... so I ordered (green) some rare Galapagos Island (never heard of it), some Keyna AA and some Puerto Rico 'Yauco Selecto Estate' ...

... if the latter is anything like the Alto Grande I picked up while on vacation ... I'm going to be in heaven!
remington850
23 years ago
Well Clinton thought other things went well with a cigar but I don't think it would fall under this board. LMFAO

I agree coffee goes well with a good gar.
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