As some of you may know I support gun control. Not the "crazy take your gun away idiots" but USERS OF GUNS KNOWING HOW TO CONTROL THEM!!!!! As our VP has demonstrated, even the most advanced shooters can become lazy and loose their edge. If you can't safely fire your guns you should give them up to someone that can. I don't buy this "being peppered is the norm" BS. It is one thing to have some shot bounce off of you but a completely different thing to have it penetrate your skin. That is negligence. He or anyone who can’t shoot better than that has no business shooting a gun.

I totally agree with Buckwheat. I am an avid proponent of the American right for civilians to arm themselves, but carrying a weapon is a very serious decision and brings great responsibility.

Any person, whether hunting or carrying concealed for personal protection has a serious responsibility to get professional training, and continue regular training and practice to handle and fire his weapon with great skill and knowledge.

Anything less is criminal, and should bring criminal charges if anyone is hurt due to one's negligence.

Tuck

I agree BW.

Despite my general disdain for increases in government regulations, I believe that it is TOO DAMN EASY to hunt, at least in PA.

I have witnessed such idoicy in the woods by armed rednecks that I generally avoid opening day of the seasons.

1) People aiming their rifles at sounds

2) People shooting over ridgelines

3) People shooting across lanes when hunting with others.

I have "hit the deck" on a few occasions when I saw a big over/under swing my way, chasing a pheasant.

I don't know what he answer is.........but for me it is going to be uber-strict education of my own children and those whom I instruct (informally of course) when it comes to gun safety and hunting etiquette.

I love hunting and am hard core about safety. I guess my dad just taught me right.... as I will if my son decides to hunt.

One thing I will make sure to teach him is not to hunt with people who are not as careful as us.... or think it is normal or acceptable for people to get shot.

That's some good perspective, Buckwheat.

I once had a sales call in the Scranton PA region on the 2nd day of buck season (the first day is a holiday, no kidding).

The talk on the shop floor was how "only one" guy was shot the previous day in their county.

Pespective is in the eye of the beholder.

Been involved in those conversations Tailgater. Its why we only hunted private land on opening day because all the dumb arses and rookies were out.

One is too many. Those comments are more making fun of the stupid hunters than congratulatory.

Fact it does happen. Fact it is unacceptable.

I agree, in theory... but the sad fact is; training will never overcome stupidity.

No matter who much training some people get, they still won't handle a firearm sensibly.

I have been a hunter for more than twenty years. I have never peppered anyone. It is not normal or acceptable. I have been peppered when duck hunting. The times that it has happened, someone took a shot at ducks that were almost straight overhead, and the pellets rained back down on us. Not dangerous, but not really pleasant either. That is why I always wear eye protection when hunting. If you are hunting upland with other people, and you don't absolutely know where everyone is, then you do not shoot at person high birds.

J

Gun control is being able to hit your target.

I got my first shotgun at age 12 . . . I got my first BBgun at age 16 . . .

Fight Crime - Shoot First

Happiness is a belt-fed weapon!

Can't go to work tomorrow... because the voices told me to stay home and clean the guns!!!!

our vice president is the new poster boy for Gun Control LOL

Gun control is being able to hit your target.

After days of White House and other administraton offiicials faulting the victim, Cheney said, ""It was not Harry's fault. You cannot blame anybody else."

remember this next time you happen to make a mistake in your car.. or get a speeding ticket!!!!

6 1/2 dozen the same!!! if you EVER speed you are being what did you NEGLIGENT?????

An accident is an accident. It has nothing to do with loosing your edge!!! There are THOUSANDS of vehicle ACCIDENTS that happen in our country every day. Every time you step into a motor vehilce, you are in charge of a deadly weapon. Some time accidents happen. People dont do them on purpose, but we are human, and we do make mistakes.

People need to get off their gun band wagon.. and if they want to focus on something that KILLS MORE PEOPLE IN THE US THAN ANY GUN.. .. why dont you focus on TIGHTER TRAFFIC LAWS!!!!

CARS KILL... TAKE THEM ALL AWAY.. LOCK THEM ALL UP. HELL.. we could be like japan and china and all ride bikes!!!

no offence to you .. but people with your line of thinking make me sick. That was not a personal attack.. I just cant stand the irrational thinking of people that want to attack guns and gun owners. There are MUCH bigger problems in this country.

A human makes a human mistake with a gun and everyone wants to come out of the wood work and make a big fn deal out of it.

rediclous if you ask me!!

v

and whats even sadder.. I just wonder... how many people screw up in a year.. run a stop sighn and god forbid kill a child...

DOES THAT MAKE THE FN NATIONAL NEWS... no ..hell.. i may not even make the local news..

but a GUN...OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HEAVEN FORBID... lets make a huge gastly deal out of it.

just another PRIME EXAMPLE OF OUR LIBERAL MEDIA ONLY PAINTING THE PICTURES THEY WANT TO PAINT!!!

ohh GUNS ARE BAD.. GUNS KILL PEOPLE.. so does HEROIN, AND CRACK AND ALCAHOL. why doesnt the media spend more time showing how EVERY ADMINISTRATION that i can remember has failed to put a stop to this garbage in our schools and to our kids!!!

im sorry but our media.. and society has serious issues. they lack total common sense .. and they only want to see what they want to see.. brush the real issues under the carpet!!!

GUNS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM!!!

v

Any person, whether hunting or carrying concealed for personal protection has a serious responsibility to get professional training, and continue regular training and practice to handle and fire his weapon with great skill and knowledge.

GOOD POINT TUCK.... they should do this with cars. but ..noooo your 16.. yes.. 16 and they hand over the keys to a deadly weapon to you!!! and you NEVER have to train again. Some elderly lady misses a turn because she is not that sharp any more.. and kills a family.. did she ever have to take a driving test.. NOPE...

I am sure you get my point!!..

v

Give me a V Give me a F Give me a R -- What's that spell? VFR VFR VFR VFR VFR VFR VFR VFR -- Way to go VFR I'm glad to see a person post here that uses common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gunflint