SmokingGuns
15 years ago
"Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce, and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." β€” James A. Garfield, 20th U.S. president, two weeks before he was assassinated in 1881 πŸ™
jackconrad
15 years ago
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rfenst
15 years ago

"Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce, and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." β€” James A. Garfield, 20th U.S. president, two weeks before he was assassinated in 1881 [-o<

SmokingGuns wrote:






Do you really believe it to be true that: 1) onetary volume is easily controlled by a few; and 2) Inflation and depression in our country are caused by the same few?:-k
borndead1
15 years ago
Robert, it is absolutely correct. Once we abandoned the gold standard and allowed a private bank to print and regulate our currency, we put the economic fate of our country into the hands of a very small number of people.
Brewha
15 years ago
So, let’s band together and protect the rich!
At least the conservatives and republicans know who owns them and show some respect for their masters!
HockeyDad
15 years ago
Boo-hoo.....class warfare.

What is Nancy Pelosi's net worth?

rfenst
15 years ago
Wow. It only took five or six posts for this thread to go downhill. 😞
wheelrite
15 years ago
Poor people smell bad...
donutboy2000
15 years ago

Wow. It only took five or six posts for this thread to go downhill. :(

rfenst wrote:




Only 3 posts.
robertknyc
15 years ago
Read about The Panic of 1907. Even before the creation of the Federal Reserve (which was inspired by the incident) the country's financial fate was in the end controlled by a few powerful people at the top, in that case JP Morgan himself. I think all the anti-Fed people forget that.
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
People need to study up on 2 President's in regard to this matter.

Andrew Jackson and John F Kennedy.

Study up on them especially in regards to Central Banking/Federal Reserve and get back to me on the outcomes of both.
SmokingGuns
15 years ago
Apparently there were constant battles for control of the republic between the international bankers and presidents. Controlling the central bank of a country seems to be a crucial part of installing a dictatorship. Allen wrote, "From the earliest days, the Founding Fathers had been conscious of attempts to control America through money manipulation, and they carried on a running battle with the international bankers."

"Essential to controlling a government is the establishment of a central bank with a monopoly on the country's supply of money and credit," wrote Perloff. Meyer Rothschild is said to have remarked, "Let me issue and control a nation's money, and I care not who writes its laws." Allen concurred, "All those who have sought dictatorial control over modern nations have understood the necessity of a central bank. When the League of Just Men hired a hack revolutionary named Karl Marx to write a blueprint for conquest called The Communist Manifesto, the fifth plank read: "Centralization of credit in the hands of the state... Lenin later said that the establishment of a central bank was ninety percent of communizing a country."

Senator Barry Goldwater described an international banker as one who makes money by extending credit to governments. This is more beneficial to the banker than loaning to an individual because governments borrow much more, and they can guarantee repayment by burdening the people with taxes. Also, instead of debt payment, a banker may receive political influence. Perloff wrote, "No turn of events is more lucrative for an international banker than war--because nothing generates more government borrowing faster."
fishinguitarman
15 years ago
It's Jerry Jones and George Steinbrenner's fault
SmokingGuns
15 years ago
Apparently the international bankers became impatient over the unwillingness of congress to accept a central bank. So using the Problem-Reaction-Solution formula, Wall Street deliberately created a panic to force congress to create a central banking system controlled by private interests. This was done to eliminate competition and to seize control of the country by way of the Federal Reserve System.

Perloff wrote, "The Panic of 1907 was artificially triggered to elicit public acceptance of this idea. Snowballing bank runs began after J.P. Morgan spread a rumor about the insolvency of the Trust Company of America." He added, "Tragedy is the mother of new directions. The Panic of 1907 spawned the Federal Reserve."

Allen described J. P. Morgan as "an old hand at creating artificial panics." He stated, "Such affairs were well co-coordinated. Senator Robert Owen, a co-author of the Federal Reserve Act, (who later deeply regretted his role), testified before a Congressional Committee that the bank he owned received from the National Bankers' Association what came to be know as the Panic Circular of 1893. It established: 'You will at once retire one-third of your circulation and call in one-half of your loans.'"
The Financial Elite's control of History, Media, & Academia
surfish1961
15 years ago

Robert, it is absolutely correct. Once we abandoned the gold standard and allowed a private bank to print and regulate our currency, we put the economic fate of our country into the hands of a very small number of people.

borndead1 wrote:



AUDIT THE FED!!!!!
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

AUDIT THE FED!!!!!

surfish1961 wrote:




Ron Paul's amendment was close and raised recognization to the issue but failed on the floor.

This is the ONLY issue that the buffoon from FL...Rep Grayson and I share common ground on. He attacked the Fed as well to how they don't even know what or where they have accounting issues. It was comedic gold but the sadness was it isn't funny.









robertknyc
15 years ago
14. That's a bunch of crap. Have you studied the Panic of 1907 in detail? I'm guessing not. There were so many factors that led up to it, starting with the big earthquake in San Francisco in 1906 that drained gold reserves and caused insurance company failures, a failed attempt to corner the stock of United Copper which led to the downfall of a major bank, and a general decline in business and an increase in bankruptcies as a result of all this. The Dow Jones Industrial Average had fallen by 40% before The Trust Company of America got into trouble. Moreover, Morgan helped prevent the failure of The Trust Company of America. If his real goal was a panic, why didn't he let it fail? Finally, there is no proof to the misguided opinion that JP Morgan engineered a panic. He actually had a history of soliving them, the most prominent of which before 1907 was the Panic of 1893.

It's fine and understandable to be distrustful of government, but it's bad to be wrong on historical facts.
SmokingGuns
15 years ago
http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-transcript-part-3 
if you are interested i can supply you with many documents.

β€œ[Our] Great Industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.. who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.”
β€œWe have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world –no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”
-Woodrow Wilson


Congressman Louis McFadden also expressed the truth after the passage of the bill:

β€œA world banking system was being set up here… a superstate controlled by international bankers.. acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. The FED has usurped the government.”

Now, the public was told that the Federal Reserve System was economic stabilizer and inflation and economic crises were thing of the past. Well, as history has shown, nothing was further from the truth. The fact is, the international bankers now had a streamline machine to expand their personal ambitions,
For example, from 1914 to 1919 the Fed increased the money supply by nearly 100% resulting in extensive loans to small banks and the public. Then, in 1920 the Fed called in mass percentages of the outstanding money supply. Thus resulting in the supporting banks having to call in huge numbers of loans and just like 1907, bank runs, bankruptcy and collapse occurred. Over 5.400 competitive banks outside of the Federal Reserve System collapsed further consolidating the monopoly of the small group of international bankers.
Privy to this crime, Congressman Lindbergh stepped up and said in 1921:

β€œUnder the Federal Reserve Act, panics are scientifically created. The present panic is the first scientifically created one, worked out as we figure a mathematical equation.” –Charles Lindbergh

However, the panic of 1920 was just a warm-up. From 1921 to 1929 the Fed again increased the money supply resulting once again in extensive loans to the public and banks. There was also a fairly new type of loan called the margin loan in the stock market. Very simply, the margin loan allowed an investor to put down only 10% of the stock's price with the other 90% being loaned from the broker. In other words, a person could own a $1000 worth of stock, with only a $100 down. This method was very popular in the roaring 1920's as everyone seemed to be making money in the market. However, there was a catch to this loan. It could be called in at any time and had to be paid within 24 hours. This is termed "a margin call", and a typical result of a margin call was the selling of the stock purchased with the loan. So, a few months before October in 1929, J.D.Rockefeller, Bernard Baruch and other insiders quietly exited the market. And on October 24th, 1929 the New York financiers who furnished the margin loans started calling them in, in mass. This sparked an instantaneous massive sell off in the market for everyone who had to cover the margin loans. It then triggered a mass bank runs for the same reason, in turn collapsing over 16.000 banks enabling the conspiring international bankers to not only buy up rival banks at the discount but to also buy up whole corporations at pennies on the dollar. It was the greatest robbery in American history. But that didn't stop there. Rather then expanding the money supply which were recovered from this economic collapse the Fed actually contracted it, fueling one of the largest depressions in history. Once again outraged, Congressman Louis McFadden, a long time opponent of the banking cartels began bringing impeachment proceedings against the Federal Reserve Board. Saying of the crash and depression:

β€œIt was a carefully contrived occurrence, international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair, so that they might emerge the rulers of us all.”
-Louis McFadden

Not surprisingly, and after two previous assassination attempts, McFadden was poisoned at a banquet before he could push for the impeachment.
gringococolo
15 years ago
Nice C&P smoking guns.

Zeitgeist: the Movie is a 2007 documentary film by Peter Joseph that asserts a number of ideas, including an artificial, mythological origin of Christianity, alternate theories for the parties responsible for the September 11th attacks, and finally, that a cabal of international bankers have been manipulating the international monetary system and the media in order to consolidate power under a unified world government.


Wait... but there's more. All this and the UN will be taking over the world with blue hat armies.


Tired conspiracy theory is for weak minds.
SmokingGuns
15 years ago
The weak minds sir are the ones that believe what they are told on the main stream media and shape their opinions on nothing more than that, do you realize that all those quotes are verified , authentic, made by people who where involved in the decision making at that time, some of them gave their lives for this country and for the truth, any way those tactic you are using are known, just debate the message don't attack the messenger.
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