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Unless you can dispute or counter the facts I laid out in post 17, your C&P as a response is irrelevant. I've heard all sorts of conspiracy theories...was very open to them at one time...but after a lot of research found most of them to be incredible (that's a whole other discussion). No banking system is perfect, and I'm hardly saying the Fed is, but it's way off the mark, and unsupported by facts, to claim The Panic of 1907 was artifically engineered to create the Fed. And the Fed has hardly "seized control of the country" since it was created, not to mention that the members of the Fed are a revolving door of people who simply cannot be a part of the conspiracy. There is no compelling proof for this set of beliefs.

I have a cousin who believes that we are all monitored by the gov't. through our TV sets .... thus he does not have one .....

OP - is that you Donny????

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the Fed has hardly "seized control of the country" since it was created, not to mention that the members of the Fed are a revolving door of people who simply cannot be a part of the conspiracy.
It is like you know them in person but anyway it is hopeless since you think that what i posted is useless, in yours last post you didn't lay no fact you just toasted all my proves out of the window simply cause you are done with conspiracy theories and you think that all of them is bs,what an argument?
cause you think that what i provided is a bunch of crap, that you are the only one who knows the true reasons of this historical event cause you studied it in depth, the rest are the effect of that panic sir not the causes, if the earthquake theories is true we would of seen a big collapse right after Catrina for example, there is so much you need to go learn before giving you full trust in wall street and the Feds sir, go read about Gold and silver prices manipulation, the house market bubble ect , the conspiracy theories that you reached are probably related to big foot and UFOs, any way im done talking to you cause like i said since you trust the Fads so much it is hopeless, by the way they have nothing federal in them cause they are a private bank and those 14T$ in dept you owe it to them mister.

Why would I debate a message that is incoherant and made of bits and pieces of random assumptions.

There is nothing to debate. Your source is a work of science fiction, with loosely strung together quotes, tales, and theory's. I have worked for the government for far too many years to actually believe there is the capability of conspiracy.

The "government" is incapable of large scale conspiracy's. What they are capable of is, large scale INCOMPETENCIES.

Don't try and be a martyr by crying foul, and the quit attacking me BS. If you believe that piece of science fiction is 100% true, then you are a fool. Nothing to debate.

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http://www.pba.org/programming/programs/lexusleader/506/ ). This guy has been a homebuilder since 1970 and has gone back full time into that business, hardly the path of someone who was part of a conspiracy to take control of the country via the Fed.

You said: "in yours last post you didn't lay no fact you just toasted all my proves out of the window simply cause you are done with conspiracy theories..." I laid out a series of facts in post 17 that you have completely glossed over and come back with unsubstantiated theories, so you are wrong to say I laid out no facts. And you are also wrong in saying I trust the "Fads" so much. They can and do make mistakes at the Federal Reserve Board, but that's not because it's a group of people whose goal is to control the country. Is Alan Greenspan on an island somewhere living the high life after controlling the country for all those years? There's absolutely no proof for this theory. Who specifically are the beneficiaries of the conspiracy? And I want names.

The Federal Reserve Bank is a consortium of twelve private banks which are not part of the United States Government.

These private banks purchase paper notes from the U.S. mint for printing cost or simply enter digital money into their computer then lend back the money plus interest to the people through member banks. The profits go into the share holders of the bank's pocket's, the U.S. public receives no benefit.

The Primary Owners of the Federal Reserve Bank Are:
1. Rothschild's of London and Berlin
2. Lazard Brothers of Paris
3. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy
4. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. of Germany and New York
5. Warburg & Company of Hamburg, Germany
6. Lehman Brothers of New York
7. Goldman, Sachs of New York
8. Rockefeller Brothers of New York

On June 4, 1963, President Kennedy signed a Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110. This order virtually stripped the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Government at interest. President Kennedy declared the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. This order gave the Treasury Department the authority to issue silver certificates against any silver in the treasury. This executive order still stands today. In less than five months after signing that executive order President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963.
The United States Notes (silver certificates) he had issued were taken out of circulation immediately. Federal Reserve Notes continued to serve as the legal currency of this nation. It is estimated that 99% of all U.S. paper currency circulating in 1999 are Federal Reserve Notes.

Those almost 14 Trillions in debt didn't come out of thin air it was borrowed from these people and it needs to be paid back.Ask yourself a very important question WHO LENDS MONEY TO THE US GOVERNMENT then start researching and you will see all the facts i stated.

First RICKAMAVEN, now Ricky Ricardo. More loons.

Robertknyc, I commend your effort, but this dude is misinformed and brainwashed,.... or is it US? [que Twilight Zone music]

Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, perhaps the most respected financial columnist in the U.K., recently penned an article entitled "Shut Down the Fed (Part II)" in which he absolutely lambasted Bernanke and other Federal Reserve officials for considering another round of quantitative easing....

I apologize to readers around the world for having defended the emergency stimulus policies of the US Federal Reserve, and for arguing like an imbecile naif that the Fed would not succumb to drug addiction, political abuse, and mad intoxicated debauchery, once it began taking its first shots of quantitative easing.

In fact, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is now openly accusing the Federal Reserve of being out of control....

So all those hillsmen in Idaho, with their Colt 45s and boxes of krugerrands, who sent furious emails to the Telegraph accusing me of defending a hyperinflating establishment cabal were right all along. The Fed is indeed out of control.

On behalf of those who believe that the Federal Reserve is "a hyperinflating establishment cabal", I accept Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's apology.

The truth is that the Federal Reserve is out of control.

The Federal Reserve system was designed to get the U.S. government into a perpetually expanding spiral of debt. Wealth is slowly but surely transferred from the American people to the U.S. government (when we pay taxes) and ultimately into the hands of those who own U.S. government debt.

As long as the Federal Reserve system exists, U.S. government debt will keep going up, the value of the U.S. dollar will keep going down and wealth will be slowly transferred into the hands of the ultra-wealthy.

And why in the world would the American people allow an unelected, privately-owned central bank to run the U.S. economy, control the money supply, set interest rates and print all U.S. currency?

It simply does not make any sense.

The Federal Reserve has not been shy about declaring that it is "not an agency" of the U.S. government and not directly accountable to the American people.

So why do the American people put up with this kind of nonsense?

The truth is that the Federal Reserve has become far too powerful. U.S. Representative Ron Paul recently told MSNBC that he believes that the Federal Reserve is actually more powerful than Congress.....

"The regulations should be on the Federal Reserve. We should have transparency of the Federal Reserve. They can create trillions of dollars to bail out their friends, and we don’t even have any transparency of this. They’re more powerful than the Congress."

The truth is that the U.S. economy will never be fundamentally "fixed" simply by electing another "Bush" or another "Obama". Something needs to be done about the Federal Reserve system, but right now our politicians in Washington can't even muster enough support to pass a bill to audit the Fed.

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, it is an acknowledgment that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." —JBR Yant

Bingo.

What I can see our Federal government doing extremely well for about the past 100 years is mobilizing large numbers of men and women into the armed forces and support groups, efficiently concentrating our manufacturing and technological base to create war materiel, and defeating a foreign enemy.

That, and spending taxpayer's money like it's only fancy paper.
Oh, wait...it is only fancy paper.

Review: The mortal words of J.B.R. Yant and other irritations

"If you like your philosophy masquerading as one-liners which are humorous, yet serious, then John Bryant's book [Mortal Words] is perfect for you. The author has come up with a most entertaining way to deliver his views on sex, men and women, politics, death, finances and many other subjects which interest all of us. ... There's a lot of good stuff [in Mortal Words] to be "borrowed" for speeches, conversations and writing." -- Larry Lawrence, Book Editor, Abilene Reporter-News,, 31 January 1988


I have made no attempt to silence you. There is no point in discrediting you, because you have not actually provided anything to discredit.

You actually haven't formed a single intelligent sentence of your own volition.

You are the boards newest troll. Contgrats. 🖐

P.S. Audit the Fed. I agree with that.

The mother of all insider trades was pulled off in 1815, when London financier Nathan Rothschild led British investors to believe that the Duke of Wellington had lost to Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo. In a matter of hours, British government bond prices plummeted. Rothschild, who had advance information, then swiftly bought up the entire market in government bonds, acquiring a dominant holding in England’s debt for pennies on the pound. Over the course of the nineteenth century, N. M. Rothschild would become the biggest bank in the world, and the five brothers would come to control most of the foreign-loan business of Europe. “Let me issue and control a nation’s money,” Rothschild boasted in 1838, “and I care not who writes its laws.”

In the United States a century later, John Pierpont Morgan again used rumor and innuendo to create a panic that would change the course of history. The panic of 1907 was triggered by rumors that two major banks were about to become insolvent. Later evidence pointed to the House of Morgan as the source of the rumors. The public, believing the rumors, proceeded to make them come true by staging a run on the banks. Morgan then nobly stepped in to avert the panic by importing $100 million in gold from his European sources. The public thus became convinced that the country needed a central banking system to stop future panics, overcoming strong congressional opposition to any bill allowing the nation’s money to be issued by a private central bank controlled by Wall Street; and the Federal Reserve Act was passed in 1913. Morgan created the conditions for the Act’s passage, but it was Paul Warburg who pulled it off. An immigrant from Germany, Warburg was a partner of Kuhn, Loeb, the Rothschilds’ main American banking operation since the Civil War. Elisha Garrison, an agent of Brown Brothers bankers, wrote in his 1931 book Roosevelt, Wilson and the Federal Reserve Law that “Paul Warburg is the man who got the Federal Reserve Act together after the Aldrich Plan aroused such nationwide resentment and opposition. The mastermind of both plans was Baron Alfred Rothschild of London.” Morgan, too, is now widely believed to have been Rothschild’s agent in the United States. 1

Robert Owens, a co-author of the Federal Reserve Act, later testified before Congress that the banking industry had conspired to create a series of financial panics in order to rouse the people to demand “reforms” that served the interests of the financiers. A century later, JPMorgan Chase & Co. (now one of the two largest banks in the United States) may have pulled this ruse off again, again changing the course of history. “Remember Friday March 14, 2008,” wrote Martin Wolf in The Financial Times; “it was the day the dream of global free-market capitalism died.”

Those Who Do Not Learn From History Are DOOMED To Repeat It!

Take a look at all the intelligent sentences you and whoever shares your point of view provided :
*You are the boards newest troll. Contgrats
*but this dude is misinformed and brainwashed
*Don't try and be a martyr by crying foul, and the quit attacking me BS. If you believe that piece of science fiction is 100% true, then you are a fool. Nothing to debate.
*I have a cousin who believes that we are all monitored by the gov't. through our TV sets .... thus he does not have one .....
OP - is that you Donny????
*Tired conspiracy theory is for weak minds.
*That's a bunch of crap
instead of looking for real facts you resort to other tactics:
● First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution.
● If the other is being persistent , you ridicule the information and the persons giving the information.
● If that doesn't work, your next step is character assassination.
● If none of these are effective,and if i was debating you in person, you are known to resort to physical attacks.

But, NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong.

Smoking Guns,

You cite works of fiction as your basis of proof.

Just use Avatar or Star Wars as your source.

● If the other is being persistent , you ridicule the information and the persons giving the information.

Every single quote i posted is true and provable by just a simple search on Google,those presidents,senators,congressmen i quoted are real people not fiction,they spoke the truth and some of them gave their live for doing that.

Show me other "google" evidence of the world banks you list above. I'd like to see that.

Also to what end is this conspiracy? What is the desired end state?

Let me help you.

Here's some. Kuhn, Loeb & Co, was bought by Lehman Bros in 1977. Lehman Bros claimed bankruptcy in 2008. The list goes on and on...