DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

Creationists and evolutionists are the mirror image of each other. Both automatically dismiss anything said by "the other side", both cling to impossible timelines and "theories", both have their holy book that is infallible, both have a "saviour", and both feel like they HAVE to wholeheartedly believe one or the other. In this sense they are much like democrats and republicans. Both full of crap.

borndead1 wrote:




If only they'd both become a Reese's Cup and get it over with. Their "Chocolate" and "Peanut Butter" worlds colliding make it a better treat!](*,)
Charlie
15 years ago

Brewha #30

IF I PLANT 10 SEEDS IN SEPARATE POTS AND ONLY 7 GROW, ARE THE REST HERETICS. SEEDS WITH NO FAITH, OR HAS GOD A 70%RATE OF RETURN.

RICKAMAVEN wrote:




Rick there will come a time when your soul wishes you had believed in God.........
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-L3JMk7C1A&feature=fvst
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
BREWHA #26

"Evolution is as incontrovertible as geometry."

the questiion that comes to my miind at the moment is,
(quie tdrum roll)
do parallel lines ever meet and if they do, where ¿

===================================================================================================(where)
jackconrad
15 years ago
No one can say for sure how we came to be

God planned it that way

To test Faith
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
charlie

i did respond to your question about why i was
jumping your case, but i forgot to hit post,

if i recall, i said we never agreed politically, but we
never resorted to personal insults. i leave that to
a few people who i shall not mention, it's enough
that i stick pins into their little dolls. it is not
necessary to believe in vodoo for it to work.

i think when the hummingbirds changed their
flight pattern and no longer visit me in droves or
flocks, my heart was broken. it must be involved
with global warming. now i sit and stare at the
empty sky and remember the good old days of
using a gallon of food per day to feed the little
buggers.

i hope ohio or utah or wherever you are isn't too
far from an ocean that you drying out from
boredom and have joined the let's get off on
insulting rick tribe.

my politics are still left of center and i am
disappointed in some of the things President
Obama has done. His attempts to work with the
republicans was and will alwauys be futile, they
are a narrow minded group of whores owned by
big business and incapable of independent
thought;.

nbills being held up by the republican senators

http://www.google.com/search?q=biolls+held+up 
+be+the+senate+republicans&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-
8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official&client=firefox-a

the thought of mccain as president would have
been worse. imagine sarah inviting him on a
hunting trip.

i look forward to the country being run by a new
leader of the congress boner, with help from
miller of alaska, Sharron Angle of nevada, and
Christine O'Donnell' of deleware, all via the land
of oz.

as far as my soul is concerned, i don't have one to
worry about. when my brain stops working. all
that will be left is a mass of protoplasm useful only
to medical research.

critisize my opinions, all you want, but stay away
from the personal attacks, it demeans you.
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
jackconrad #45

will it be graded on a sliding scale. will i get 10 points for being a vet?
gzubeck
15 years ago

it is a theory that, for all practical purposes, cannot be proven.Plus, the only credible evidence that exists suggests that there needs to be a driving intelligence to force specific mutations to cause creatures to "evolve," such as gene splicing, and purposeful breeding and selection.

"Random" chance (of which no such thing exists) cannot be proven, and is near impossible to document via observation.

So, FGM is on the right track.

jpotts wrote:



You have to watch KPBS or crack open a text book every now and then to prove things. If you don't you can deny anything you want. 🇨🇮
tweoijfoi
15 years ago
Wow, this is impressive. jpotts, jackconrad and DrMaddVibe, do you think the sun orbits the earth still?

I'm a flat earth believer. I dare you to prove the earth it's not flat. God says it is built upon pillars, and I believe that you trying to convince me otherwise is a test of faith.
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
tweoijfoi #49

Please see my #47. thank you.
jpotts
15 years ago

quote=fishinguitarman
"Evolution is not observable, it is not measurable, and it is not repeatable"


Observable: in the extensive fossil record, the uniform predictability of DNA between species, the similarities between all living things. Then there is that whole Galapagos Island thing (you didn’t read about this did you?)

Brewha wrote:



Yes, you are so right.

Motorcycles have wheels. Automobiles have wheels. Therefore, automobiles evolved from motorcycles through "natural selection."

Just because something shares a common structure means next to nothing. The fact is that to *prove* Evolution, you have to actually see it happening.

As for the fossil record, it means next to nothing again. Any idiot can make a guess as to which bones fit in one tree without a shred of genuine evidence to prove it. It is science based on assumption in which the assumption cannot be definitively proved. Period.


Measurable: in the age of the earth’s records and the steady progression of species that show even before the Cambrian explosion. Carbon dating seldom lies.

Brewha wrote:



Just because something is old doesn't mean that it is somehow directly linked to a specific species.

Nice try.


Repeatable: It is going on all around us. Man’s artificial selection of plants and animals is biting evidence of the big process. Just because you can’t see the hour hand of a clock move, doesn’t mean it is still.

Brewha wrote:



BZZT! Wrong. Evolution means natural selection, which in present-day terms means an absence of intelligent manipulation. Man is considered an intelligent manipulator of selection.

Once you inject intelligence as a modifying force into the debate, you immediatelty kill repeatability. Because if you repeat evolution in a lab setting, the only thing you do is prove that intelligent manipulation is possible, not "natural." Thus, to prove Evolution through natural selection, it must be wholly observed.

Otherwise, you're justifying Intelligent Design, and that'll cause the RICKAMAVEN types to go all Stalin on you.
jpotts
15 years ago

Brewha 326


NO, YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THE DONUTHOLE

PUTZBOY, PUTZPERSON, AND PUTZAYTHING IS NONE OTHER THEN

(DRUM ROLL)

JPOTTS WHO REPRESENTS HIMSELF AS A CHARACTER IN THE SIMPSONS AND WHO FELT THE NEED THE NEED TO INFORM US THAT HE AND HIS SPOUSE WERE PLANNING TO HAVE A SEXUAL ENCOUNTER. SOMETHING APPARENTLY SO RARE, HE FELT THE NEED TO ANNOUNCE IT.

HE CLAIMS TO BE A PROGRAMMER AND IS A CONSULTANT TO FORD MOTORS, FAILING TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU ONLY CONSULT WITH ONE COMPANY, YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE, BUT SINCE FORD IS CONTINUING SUCCESSFULLY. HE IS OBVIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT EMPLOYEE.

RICKAMAVEN wrote:



Rick, you really are kinda dense.

I don't consult with Ford exclusively. I think I've said this a couple of times now. If you are going to obsess over me, the least you can do is get your facts straight.

As for announcing that I am going to have an "encounter" with my wife - and I know that this may be a foreign concept to you - that's what happily married couples do from time to time. If it titillates you so much, as it obviously has, I can do it more often.

Call me crazy, but I thought most grown adults assumed that whole "birds and bees" thing was a given with happily married couples. I guess I assumed too much.
jpotts
15 years ago

Wow, this is impressive. jpotts, jackconrad and DrMaddVibe, do you think the sun orbits the earth still?

I'm a flat earth believer. I dare you to prove the earth it's not flat. God says it is built upon pillars, and I believe that you trying to convince me otherwise is a test of faith.

tweoijfoi wrote:



Yeah, typical ignorant liberal response. If you don't believe in Evolution via "random" mutation, you're living in the Dark Ages.

Of course, in its time, a Flat Earth and Terra-centric Universe were concepts accepted by the prevailing scientific community at the time, and based off the writings of a very credible scientist.

Of course, in believing ransom events turn paramecium into Valley Girls is up there with more enlightened forms of shamanism and wiccian practices. Things change because of "magic."

You really should try reading a book sometime.
tweoijfoi
15 years ago

Yeah, typical ignorant liberal response. If you don't believe in Evolution via "random" mutation, you're living in the Dark Ages.

Of course, in its time, a Flat Earth and Terra-centric Universe were concepts accepted by the prevailing scientific community at the time, and based off the writings of a very credible scientist.

Of course, in believing ransom events turn paramecium into Valley Girls is up there with more enlightened forms of shamanism and wiccian practices. Things change because of "magic."

You really should try reading a book sometime.

jpotts wrote:



Indeed it was if you want to call it what we had 1,000 years ago a "scientific community." Indeed the that that time current ideas about nature and science were put into the bible. Science then moved on once new and better theories surfaced. It took hundreds of years for the religious leaders to accept these changes as legitimate and not heresy--many scientists were branded as such and excommunicated or outright killed.

Believers still have trouble at least accepting modern scientific truths. Depending on your level of belief, the less things you are likely to believe based upon evidence. The strictest of fundamentalist believers disbelieve ALL of science.

Let's start with what you do believe...

1. Do you believe in DNA?
2. Do you believe in gene inheritance?
3. Do you believe that mutations in living things do occur?
4. Do you believe that certain mutations provide benefits?
5. Do you believe that these benefits would change how likely that living thing is to survive?
6. Do you believe that this increased likelihood of survival makes some creatures more likely to reproduce?
7. Do you believe some of the offspring would inherit these benefits?

Start at the top and let me know the first one you disagree with. If you don't disagree with any, we can move on from there.
gringococolo
15 years ago
1 & 2 are dumb questions.

3. The gay-homo gene (oh wait there isn't one), is a mutation. But if it were then ......

4. The benefit of the gay-homo gene is that two gay-homos can't procreate a new gay-homo like you.

5. Gay-homos will die off eventually.

6. Answered.

7. N/A Gay-homos can't reproduce naturally.


tweoijfoi
15 years ago

1 & 2 are dumb questions.

3. The gay-homo gene (oh wait there isn't one), is a mutation. But if it were then ......

4. The benefit of the gay-homo gene is that two gay-homos can't procreate a new gay-homo like you.

5. Gay-homos will die off eventually.

6. Answered.

7. N/A Gay-homos can't reproduce naturally.

gringococolo wrote:



I present to you: the man with the brain of a 10-year-old, ladies and gentleman!
gringococolo
15 years ago
I am just following science. You must be one of those faith people. Pure science right there bub. Evolution in action.

ZRX1200
15 years ago
Rick, not listening to JPotts on this but your past words. You have said vile things about Palin. Period. You like I don't have to like what she believes or represents. But when call her and republicans whores you aren't welcoming an conversation. You are angry and are venting frustration. That's fine, but don't whine like a little beeeach when people treat you the way you act. And can you show me one thing Obummer did to reach out to Republicans? The only meeting he invited R's to at the White house was to tell them the way it was going to be....Political whores can be found on both sides, be specific and name names. We need people like Angle, and Odonnell.
Also agree with DMV and Borndead.
jackconrad
15 years ago
Rick is the new face of Conservatism
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