wheelrite
15 years ago

Why Wheel? If you disagree with my post explain why? What is it about my post that makes you say what you did?

dsmokers wrote:



Your post is nothing but a weak attempt on your part to stir the pot..
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dsmokers
15 years ago
No. Your post is a weak attempt to brush off a touchy subject that is hypocritical to every single thing you stated about how YOUR Church prevents you from doing wrong. Again, why do you call me that name? I agree with you on the abortion thing. I agree with the Catholic Church's view on it as well. However I don't agree with their view (and yours?) on touching little boys, murdering infidels, or allowing money to buy a ticket to Heaven. If I'm wrong, explain to me how I am wrong. Thanks.
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dsmokers
15 years ago
by "and yours?" above I do NOT mean that you do these things, but rather are "okay" with your Church dismissing them.
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wheelrite
15 years ago

by "and yours?" above I do NOT mean that you do these things, but rather are "okay" with your Church dismissing them.

dsmokers wrote:



Ok ,,
I'li type slow..

The theology of my religion is not flawed.Sometimes the flawed people that administer it are and sometimes very deeply flawed.

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dsmokers
15 years ago
And as long as the highest member of the Catholic Church, the man that supposedly is the only one that can talk to God directly allows his members and leadership to act the way they do, then the entire Church is corrupt and flawed. So in regards to your "moron" comment, please save this for ANY member of YOUR Church that continues to follow ANY leader in faith that tells his followers that it's cool to rape young boys. Seriously messed up ideals, that I cannot agree with. Sorry. Just the way I feel, as well as the common consensus of ANY person that has children. How any Catholic person can allow their children to be near, with, or God forbid ALONE with a male member of the Catholic clergy is beyond me. Sorry dude, but you have a former Nazi in charge, and I can't get past that.
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wheelrite
15 years ago

And as long as the highest member of the Catholic Church, the man that supposedly is the only one that can talk to God directly allows his members and leadership to act the way they do, then the entire Church is corrupt and flawed. So in regards to your "moron" comment, please save this for ANY member of YOUR Church that continues to follow ANY leader in faith that tells his followers that it's cool to rape young boys. Seriously messed up ideals, that I cannot agree with. Sorry. Just the way I feel, as well as the common consensus of ANY person that has children. How any Catholic person can allow their children to be near, with, or God forbid ALONE with a male member of the Catholic clergy is beyond me. Sorry dude, but you have a former Nazi in charge, and I can't get past that.

dsmokers wrote:



Your opinion is meaningless and you're still a moron..
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dsmokers
15 years ago
My opinion? no dude...FACT! Your Church's leader is a former Nazi. You follow the guidance and leadership of a Nazi that allows his staff (I said staff) to touch young boys entrusted in their care by followers and good people such as yourself. Do you NOT see the bs in this? Moron? come on dude. You clearly have some good morals, as I said I agree with you on both your stances regarding abortion and the death penalty.
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HockeyDad
15 years ago
Nazi outrage!
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dsmokers
15 years ago
there's the diversion, right on cue.
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leonardo
15 years ago

My opinion? no dude...FACT! Your Church's leader is a former Nazi. You follow the guidance and leadership of a Nazi that allows his staff (I said staff) to touch young boys entrusted in their care by followers and good people such as yourself. Do you NOT see the bs in this? Moron? come on dude. You clearly have some good morals, as I said I agree with you on both your stances regarding abortion and the death penalty.

dsmokers wrote:



It is possible that you are just incredibly ignorant about the Catholic Church, instead of being a moron.

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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dsmokers
15 years ago
I suppose I am ignorant to many aspects of the Catholic Church. Maybe someone can enlighten me on the whole process. I mean, how does one become a Pope? Do things such as being a member of the Nazi Party put you to the head of the line? Is this the Catholic's way of getting back at the Jews for killing Jesus? How is it that a known Nazi can become the highest member of organized religion? Turn on the news and every political figure from Obama to the President of the Podunk, Arkansas 8th Grade Student Council is a Nazi, but the Pope gets a free pass. Even after the whole kids thing. I just don't get it. Somebody make me not ignorant. Please?
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leonardo
15 years ago
Nah, you're fine. If you're really curious though, you could try talking to a priest.
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dsmokers
15 years ago
Nice! 🙂
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Brewha
15 years ago

As history shows,consensus is often incorrect and immoral.

wheelrite wrote:



Oh, I agree with that - yet;
If not consensus, and if not the pure logic of science, than what? divine guidance?
That would only work if everyone had the same vision of right, the same vision of truth - and people simply don't.
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dsmokers
15 years ago
Brewha, I believe that all humans do have the same vision and the same sense of right or wrong. I truly believe that we are born with the instinct and cognitive ability to not only do what is "right" but also to grow and develop. To evolve into better beings. I believe that this is what "God" wants us to do. It's in our DNA. Someone asked me once when I felt that a human first committed a sin, and I replied as soon as someone told them that they had.

Remember, Adam would not have met or known God had it not been for Eve. And yet somehow we screwed her over and made her out to be bad. Men. Men with money and agendas.

All hail me!

(I threw that last part in there cause the serotonin level in my head just peaked for whatever reason... 🙂
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jetblasted
15 years ago
So, was it Cain or Abel that had sex with Eve?
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dsmokers
15 years ago
and what's up with that serpent that is hanging out in that tree on doctor uniforms? He looks an awful lot like the one in that tree in my Sunday School text. Does this mean Doctors are evil because they cherish Kundalini?
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wheelrite
15 years ago

Oh, I agree with that - yet;
If not consensus, and if not the pure logic of science, than what? divine guidance?
That would only work if everyone had the same vision of right, the same vision of truth - and people simply don't.

Brewha wrote:



It's called faith .
Science does'nt have all the answers and never will.
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dsmokers
15 years ago
But you're putting your faith in the words and deeds of a Nazi. Not the words and deeds of The Christ. Remember, he was against organized religion. Made him wanna flip over tables and such. Remember? Faith.
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HockeyDad
15 years ago
Just to unthreadjack this thing from the current Catholic bashing......

Would it be OK to abort a Nazi?
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