DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
You have to say it 3 times!!!![-x
ZRX1200
15 years ago
Just like Swiper!!!
hensed
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15 years ago
And to think all this commentary for a joke, me like. =d>
wheelrite
15 years ago

And to think all this commentary for a joke, me like. =d>

hensed wrote:




Political and Religious jokes are in very poor taste...


That's why I like Racial Jokes,,,
octavup
15 years ago

There is a huge difference between a person in a wheelchair receiving disability payments and a corporation that does business with the government. The person in a wheelchair receiving disability payments does not provide any products or services in return for their money received. The corporation no matter how large or small provides goods and/or services that the government needs. It may be through any number of contractual arangements including a no-bid contract based on whatever Federal law allows/requires.

Your definition of corporate welfare is any company that does business with the government and that simply is incorrect. Corporations are not the enemy. Corporations employ people. Small business owners are also corporations.

HockeyDad wrote:




I never said that corporate welfare is any company that does business with the government. I never said that corporations were the enemy either. What I did say was that there are corporations that are on the public dole, charging $600.00 for a hammer and $900.00 for a toilet,for example. What I did say is that there are corporations that screw the taxpayers on a regular basis, ala Enron. These corporations are the enemy, not all corporations, so please don't misquote me or twist my words. Sure ther are mega-corporations that employ a huge number of people. And many of those same corporations employ a huge number of people overseas. For every IPhone that is sold, $11.00 goes to American workers, the rest goes overseas. This is what I am talking about. As for small businesses are concerned, don't think for a minute that any of our Republican representatives, as well as many of our Democratic representatives, consider small businesses a priority. The success of small business means a stronger middle class. Clearly this doen't fit the Republican agenda. Otherwise, they would not have held extending unemployment benefits hostage in order to protect tax breaks for those making over $1,000,000.00 a year. Now if they had not voted for extending the unemployment benefits on philosophical grounds, I still wouldn't have agreed with them, but I least I would have respected the fact that they had the balls to take a position based on their own principles.
ZRX1200
15 years ago
^ those tax breaks.....were extending exsisting rates that were to expire.

Included were capital, so a business with trucks equipment etc would have all been hit.

IMO the R's pussed out on an oppertunity. All they did was win a small battle at the cost of appearing to be what was voted against when they got their asses handed to them prior to the last election.

I realize people are hurting but we are spending non-exsistant money.
rfenst
15 years ago
hesed,

Reigion
Politics
Corporate/Government Contracts
Disability
Wheelchairs

Bad combination of too many topics to bring into one conversation. Leave Religion, Disability and People in Whelchairs, out of the stew. They have zero to do with the direction you sent this thread. Some of us happen to be in wheelchairs or have family members who are. Others are disabled and receive disability benefits orhave family members who are. Some find the reference to Jesus, as a character in your story, utterly tatsteless.My self included.

rfenst
rfenst
15 years ago

... I mentioned a month or two back I missed Jimmy. I ment Jimmynconnet or whatever his screen name was.....

ZRX1200 wrote:




Are you really serious? I think the guy is "poison".
HockeyDad
15 years ago

I never said that corporate welfare is any company that does business with the government. I never said that corporations were the enemy either. What I did say was that there are corporations that are on the public dole, charging $600.00 for a hammer and $900.00 for a toilet,for example. What I did say is that there are corporations that screw the taxpayers on a regular basis, ala Enron. These corporations are the enemy, not all corporations, so please don't misquote me or twist my words. Sure ther are mega-corporations that employ a huge number of people. And many of those same corporations employ a huge number of people overseas. For every IPhone that is sold, $11.00 goes to American workers, the rest goes overseas. This is what I am talking about. As for small businesses are concerned, don't think for a minute that any of our Republican representatives, as well as many of our Democratic representatives, consider small businesses a priority. The success of small business means a stronger middle class. Clearly this doen't fit the Republican agenda. Otherwise, they would not have held extending unemployment benefits hostage in order to protect tax breaks for those making over $1,000,000.00 a year. Now if they had not voted for extending the unemployment benefits on philosophical grounds, I still wouldn't have agreed with them, but I least I would have respected the fact that they had the balls to take a position based on their own principles.

octavup wrote:





It is still just an anti-corporation rant.

Does Halliburton charge $600.00 for a hammer and $900.00 for a toilet to the Federal government? Just exactly how much of Halliburton's work is from the Federal government? You have no idea. Why does the Federal government negotiate contracts to pay $600 for a hammer? That sound more like a problem with the Federal workforce.

How 'bout Enron? What do they charge for hammers and toilet? Did they even do business with the Federal government before they were bankrupted by the accounting fraud scandal? You know they folded in 2002, right?

How much money from the iPhone should go to American workers and what is that number based on? Percentage sales? HQ location? Cool factor? Are we now anti-globalization and want tariff wars and a giant wall surrounding the USA? No importing of foreign goods!

How much money from clothing sales in the US should go to American workers? I bet it is worse that the iPhone! Look for the union label lately?

In terms of Republicans blocking anything, keep in mind that the Democrats have controlled Congress, the White House, and the US Supreme Court for the last two years. Republicans don't have the power to block. The problem is Democrats don't have the ability to lead because they keep tripping over their own corruption. You've been manipulated to believe that the Republicans are blocking everything. The reality is the Republicans and Democrats at the end of the day attend the exact same fancy dinner parties at your expense.

..but the corporations are bad. Yup.

JadeRose
15 years ago

Again with the wheelchairs????:-s

DrMaddVibe wrote:




As I learned on this forum a long time ago...it's cool to pick on cripples!!!:d/
hensed
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15 years ago

hesed,

Reigion
Politics
Corporate/Government Contracts
Disability
Wheelchairs

Bad combination of too many topics to bring into one conversation. Leave Religion, Disability and People in Whelchairs, out of the stew. They have zero to do with the direction you sent this thread. Some of us happen to be in wheelchairs or have family members who are. Others are disabled and receive disability benefits orhave family members who are. Some find the reference to Jesus, as a character in your story, utterly tatsteless.My self included.

rfenst

rfenst wrote:



I believe the intent of the joke is to make fun of Democrats, religion; disabilities; wheelchairs are merely use as a vehicle to convey the joke. If you go back and read it fun is not being poked at any of the physical maladies, sure it could have been a blonde, brunette or redhead, but would that have been offensive to some.

I’m also not sure that religion was being made fun of either but isn’t it ironic that two of the most taboo discussion topics politics and religion find their way into a joke.

What really is the funny part of this whole post is the wild off topic divergence the thread has taken. Nowhere in the joke is there anything that would have pushed the conversations to corporate and government contracts.
HockeyDad
15 years ago
The wheelchair was a "Rascal" and advertised on Glen Beck's TV program. It was manufactured by an evil corporation.

hensed
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15 years ago

The wheelchair was a "Rascal" and advertised on Glen Beck's TV program. It was manufactured by an evil corporation.

HockeyDad wrote:



Ahhhh now I see the connection, thanks for pointing that out
fishinguitarman
15 years ago
Laughter is food for the soul.
HockeyDad
15 years ago

Laughter is food for the soul.

fishinguitarman wrote:




..but hemp is the world's premier food source.
DrafterX
15 years ago
😞 poor CROS...
Lumpa
15 years ago
$600 hammers and Enron?!?
Dude, you really need to udate your propaganda.


fishinguitarman
15 years ago

..but hemp is the world's premier food source.

HockeyDad wrote:






PLUS you laugh harder when you have it!
jpotts
15 years ago

I never said that corporate welfare is any company that does business with the government. I never said that corporations were the enemy either. What I did say was that there are corporations that are on the public dole, charging $600.00 for a hammer and $900.00 for a toilet,for example.

octavup wrote:



This would be for the following reasons:

1) continual governmment "scope change" after a bid price has been set (which someone has to pay for),

2) insane government reporting and accountability practices that cost more money to enforce than they save,

3) hammers and toilet seats that need to be designed to an exacting federal / state / local specification because someone twenty years ago create the specification to give the business to his best buddy, and no one in the government has the brains to change the spec,

4) the amount of paperwork and time it takes to submit and win a bid with the federal government,

5) the number of times your competing bid was copied, given to a favored contractor, and then undercut on price,

6) the cost of dealing with the general stupidity of most government bureaucrats and their evil henchmen / impish minions.





ZRX1200
15 years ago
^ not to mention if an agency has to boost spending to maintain budget increases.....
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