stogiemonger
15 years ago
Heralded by Bush and now Obama as a good sustainable replacement fuel for gasoline. But is it?

A little quick research will clearly show that ethanol mandates by the government have already resulted in many unintended consequences. Here are just a few, increased ground ozone pollution directly as a result of burning ethanol fuels (ozone pollutant a byproduct of burning this fuel), increases of nitrogen pollution in waterways from fertilizers used to grow corn (contributes greatly to the annual dead zone (hypoxia) in the Gulf of Mexico), increases in food prices (due to gov. mandates that a percentage of all corn grown must go towards ethanol production= higher prices for consumable corn for humans as well as livestock), ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline, so to meet the same energy demands, more gallons of ethanol would have to be produced, damage done to many engines across the nation (especially outboard boat engines).

I'm no expert in this field, to say the least, but, the more I read about ethanol fuel, the angrier I get that our government is shoving another bad pill down our throats. I did not get My information from Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck etc., This information can be had even at sources such as NPR, Scientific America, Climate Central, Green America etc. So, do some research of your own and inform your friends so that the U.S. Government can be pushed to stop this stupidity.

We should be rallying together from left to right to stop government ethanol mandates now!
DrafterX
15 years ago
DrafterX
15 years ago
I recently drove and 400 miles and got 17.9 mpg on ethanol free gas.... had to burn ethanol on the return trip and got 15.2 mpg....
stogiemonger
15 years ago

I recently drove and 400 miles and got 17.9 mpg on ethanol free gas.... had to burn ethanol on the return trip and got 15.2 mpg....

DrafterX wrote:



Yeah, but You helped saved the planet on the way back. lol!

Seriously, I've had the same experience as of late.16.6mpg on ethanol free fuel.....14.4mpg on the 10% ethanol laced garbage in the Guzzler. 🤔
ZRX1200
15 years ago
Ethanol is really good for small engines like chainsaws and lawnmowers.....
donutboy2000
15 years ago
Soon we will all be driving electric vehicles so the ethanol debate will be moot.
HockeyDad
15 years ago
Ethanol is the nectar of the gods!
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
Couple that with...

HEMP

The world's PREMIER food source
...

and you'd have happy proles abound!
Gene363
15 years ago

Ethanol is really good for small engines like chainsaws and lawnmowers.....

ZRX1200 wrote:



My local Stil dealer said to avoid blended gasoline. Just like cars, not all parts will withstand alcohol.

IMO, we are using ethanol in gasoline for the same reason we use corn based sweeteners, corporations like ADM buy up enough politicians and scientists to get laws past that require us to buy their crap. Oh, and the 'gotta fight the man' and eco-nuts who believe just about anything but the facts are always ready to help them out.

rfenst
15 years ago
Aren't newer model cars designed and built to run on blended fuel
Gene363
15 years ago

Soon we will all be driving electric vehicles so the ethanol debate will be moot.

donutboy2000 wrote:






Great! as long as we make the power in a nuclear power plant,
not a dirt burner(coal).

rfenst
15 years ago



Great! as long as we make the power in a nuclear power plant,
not a dirt burner(coal).

Gene363 wrote:



I think clean, safe (relatively) nuclear enrgy is the way to go.
HockeyDad
15 years ago
85% ethanol, giant solar farms, and giant wind farms are the way to go. You people need to be thinking about all the green jobs you're helping to create!
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago


My local Stil dealer said to avoid blended gasoline. Just like cars, not all parts will withstand alcohol.

IMO, we are using ethanol in gasoline for the same reason we use corn based sweeteners, corporations like ADM buy up enough politicians and scientists to get laws past that require us to buy their crap. Oh, and the 'gotta fight the man' and eco-nuts who believe just about anything but the facts are always ready to help them out.

Gene363 wrote:




True dat...strip away the subsidies and govt. involvement and it wouldn't sustain itself.

It's a fraud perpetrated on the US citizenry.

END THE MADNESS!

STOP THE PORK SPENDING!!!!
DrafterX
15 years ago

85% ethanol,

HockeyDad wrote:





man, you really want to piss off the Mexicans huh..? 😕
Gene363
15 years ago

85% ethanol, giant solar farms, and giant wind farms are the way to go. You people need to be thinking about all the green jobs you're helping to create!

HockeyDad wrote:




Has LeDad gone to work for Archer Daniels Midland Company?

wheelrite
15 years ago

Aren't newer model cars designed and built to run on blended fuel

rfenst wrote:


NO ,not all... Not above a 10% blend...

If you wanna find out, run a tank of E85 through you car and see what happens...
HockeyDad
15 years ago


Has LeDad gone to work for Archer Daniels Midland Company?

Gene363 wrote:





Hey...Hey...

Who said I have any vested interest in this. I just care about what's best for the USA! Go green, baby!
Gene363
15 years ago

Hey...Hey...

Who said I have any vested interest in this. I just care about what's best for the USA! Go green, baby!

HockeyDad wrote:




Go green? Yes of course, green in your wallet. So are you invested in corn production or ethanol production?



It's not "Who said...", it's what you said.=;

ZRX1200
15 years ago
Gene I know, my post was 98.2% sarcasm......

We had a couple stations around that actually sold non ethanol for small motor tools......guess who didn't like it.....freaking wackos. Now there has been some talks at least locally to be able to do so.

And Wheel is right^.
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