cacman
15 years ago
“I'll show you Obama’s birth certificate when you show me Sarah Palin’s graduation certificate”
~ Bill Maher
DrafterX
15 years ago
did Sarah recieve foreign student aid too..?? 😕
SteveS
15 years ago

“I'll show you Obama’s birth certificate when you show me Sarah Palin’s graduation certificate”
~ Bill Maher

cacman wrote:


that guy is a complete idiot ... it's impossible to understand how he got a show on TV
chiefburg
15 years ago

that guy is a complete idiot ... it's impossible to understand how he got a show on TV

SteveS wrote:


Not just him - all the other yahoo's as well. It seems the networks look for the craziest left and right folks, give them a contract, and turn them loose on the air. Most every one of them should be in mental hospital (from both sides).

For the record, I'm sure it's pretty easy to get Sarah Palin's graduation certificate.......🌫
teedubbya
15 years ago
"For the record, I'm sure it's pretty easy to get Sarah Palin's graduation certificate......."

Don't be so sure about that. Whatever she provides a group of idiots will demand it in some other form. In the words of a great philosopher:

It's all about the game, and how you play it
All about control, and if you can take it
All about your debt, and if you can pay it
It's all about pain, and who's gonna make it
DrafterX
15 years ago

In the words of a great philosopher:

It's all about the game, and how you play it
All about control, and if you can take it
All about your debt, and if you can pay it
It's all about pain, and who's gonna make it

teedubbya wrote:





CROS..?? 😕
SteveS
15 years ago

For the record, I'm sure it's pretty easy to get Sarah Palin's graduation certificate.......🌫

chiefburg wrote:


Probably ... not that it matters ... the comment was a lame attempt at humor on the part of the very UNfunny comedian Bill Maher turned political pundit who was attempting to deflect attention aimed at one of his idols, Barry Obama (nee Soetoro). His obvious implication is that she's not all that bright.

Fact is, there is no constitutional requirement for a presidential candidate to be a high school graduate. There IS, on the other hand, a requirement for natural-born citizenship ... which Obama apparently cannot document. The so-called Hawaiian document is only a certificate of live birth, something that cannot be used to secure a US passport. More to the point, when Obama was a student at Occidental college (from which release of his transcripts has been blocked). There, when he made successful application for financial aid and was given a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation. To qualify for that fellowship, he claimed Indonesian citizenship.

For the record, I don't believe Palin is qualified to be president. That said, the sad fact of the matter is that she is more qualified than Obama is.
DrafterX
15 years ago

That said, the sad fact of the matter is that she is more qualified than Obama is.

SteveS wrote:





but he was a community organizer.... 😟
jojoc
15 years ago

Probably ... not that it matters ... the comment was a lame attempt at humor on the part of the very UNfunny comedian Bill Maher turned political pundit who was attempting to deflect attention aimed at one of his idols, Barry Obama (nee Soetoro). His obvious implication is that she's not all that bright.

Fact is, there is no constitutional requirement for a presidential candidate to be a high school graduate. There IS, on the other hand, a requirement for natural-born citizenship ... which Obama apparently cannot document. The so-called Hawaiian document is only a certificate of live birth, something that cannot be used to secure a US passport. More to the point, when Obama was a student at Occidental college (from which release of his transcripts has been blocked). There, when he made successful application for financial aid and was given a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation. To qualify for that fellowship, he claimed Indonesian citizenship.

For the record, I don't believe Palin is qualified to be president. That said, the sad fact of the matter is that she is more qualified than Obama is.

SteveS wrote:




really? I used a "Certificate of Live Birth" issued from Calif. to obtain my passport. I used the same certificate to obtain a Visa to travel to China. I used the same certificate to prove my US Citizenship to Home Land Security and the US Dept. of State in apply for an immigration US Visa for my children. I used the same certificate to obtain US Citizenship for my internationally adopted children. If a "Certificate of Live Birth" is accepted by the US Dept. of State, USCIS, and Homeland Security, why would it not be sufficient to show Birthright Citizenship for the president?

I have seen Obama's Certificate of Live Birth as posted on the internet. It looks a lot like mine, other than the info. of course. So why is mine good enough, and his is not?

(and no, I am not a Dem. I did not vote for Obama. I wish he had not been elected. BUT HE IS THE PRESIDENT!)
teedubbya
15 years ago
^ ok that is settled but have you seen his degree?
SteveS
15 years ago

I have seen Obama's Certificate of Live Birth as posted on the internet. It looks a lot like mine, other than the info. of course. So why is mine good enough, and his is not?

jojoc wrote:



I guess my next question would be, if yours is good enough for a passport et al and his is good enough to establish qualification, why was MrsS cert of live birth not good enough for her to obtain a passport ... hers, although not issued by CA or HI, also looked a lot like his (and apparently, yours) ... we were told those were little more than birth announcements and that a certified copy bearing the state seal was going to be necessary and it we had to jump through hoops to get it inasmuch as we live in CA and had to send long distance for it ...
teedubbya
15 years ago
^ Good question because mine has worked for all of the above as well. Could have more to do with the seal etc. A copy of the original will not work without the raised seal (old school) or the multicolor seal (new school). His has the seal and it sounds like mrs s' didn't. The solution is get the exact same copy but the certified version like his. my cert of live birth is almost an exact match in format and works just fine. My guess is the big o used his just fine for said purposes prior to being elected.

I also have state provided copies of the exact same form without the seal (I didn't pay yo have them certified). They are basically useless for anything other than baby books etc.
pgje51
15 years ago

maybe Pablo has it.
jojoc
15 years ago

I guess my next question would be, if yours is good enough for a passport et al and his is good enough to establish qualification, why was MrsS cert of live birth not good enough for her to obtain a passport ... hers, although not issued by CA or HI, also looked a lot like his (and apparently, yours) ... we were told those were little more than birth announcements and that a certified copy bearing the state seal was going to be necessary and it we had to jump through hoops to get it inasmuch as we live in CA and had to send long distance for it ...

SteveS wrote:



Mine has the raised state seal. Without the seal, it is just a photo copy and not an official document. It must be a certified copy with raised seal. The raised seals do not copy/scan well at all. If you read some of the reports by those who claim to have actually seen the President's certificate, they have stated that the seal is there, but did not scan well. I know from my experience in dealing with courts, they will generally run chalk or graphite over the raised seal prior to coping so that the raised seal becomes visible in the scanning/coping process. Otherwise the scanned image or copy will not show the seal.

Here is a link to a copy that includes High Res blowups of the raised seal.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html 
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