DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
It's twue...it's twue!!!
MACS
15 years ago

Oh no he did'ent!

HockeyDad wrote:


Giddyup!
Lumpa
15 years ago
To put this in a serious context:

There are numerous flaws in this (I suspect he is actually being facetious but being the smartest person in any room he doesn't think we'll get it) argument. Let's look just at the most glaring two.

One
Michaelson cites that "The consciousness of collective, historical humanity" appears to be blahblah…
I'm sorry, the wha?
What an amorphous, diverse, impossible to measure thing that must be!
Does a headhunter from an as-yet undisturbed deep-amazon indian tribe get more weight or less weight in the collective consciousness than you and me? What about the woman who cooked her baby last week? Stephen Hawking?
And who said Peter Michaelson is qualified to make any judgement whatsover about either the grand collective consciousness of humanity or any of the segments thereof?

Peter Michaelson, that's who!
The qualifications he chooses to tell prospective clients on his web site:
>>>>>>>>>
I am a former journalist and science writer and, since the mid-1980s, a therapist, author, and teacher. My method is based on powerful knowledge that exposes how, in our psyche, we hold on to unresolved negative emotions that create unhappiness and limit our potential.

I have recently opened a new practice in Ann Arbor, MI (734-222-1499), and I do telephone sessions with clients throughout the United States and Canada. I uncover and write about major aspects of human nature that the psychological establishment overlooks.
<<<<<<

That is the entire contents of the “about” page on his site.
I’m sure he just assumes that his medical degrees are just to mundane for us to be interested in. Or his psychology degree. Sociology anyone? I wouldn’t be shocked if he does indeed have a Journalism or English degree, from some halfass liberal arts college.

But when I look for someone to take advice from all I really care about is that THEY know they are smaht. Wicked smaht is even bettah.

Two
Comparing a group (in this case conservatives vs EVERYOBODY ELSE) to an individual and the government to his parents, in the context of human psycho-developmental stages just does not make sense. An individual (particularly in this example a teenager) knows that they will grow and change, and usually is eager to overstep the bounds of current age and into the “freedom” of adulthood. The angst of being held back in the case of individuals is often just simply impatience that gets expressed as “anger towards parent”, but in reality is just plain old frustration. The most annoying thing of this is the attachment of “parent” to government. First off, parents are SUPPOSED TO completely control their children at birth, slowly giving the child autonomy until eventually that autonomy is complete (parent dies). If this article is telling me, by calling government my parents, the government will someday just completely leave me alone, then THANK GOD! But it is not. It fails to acknowledge the fact that government does not follow a life cycle like us human beings do, or that parents have not only more right to intrude on the lives of children than does government, but the obligation to do so. I find the use of "parent and adolescent" as terms for "government and citizens" to be a revelation as to the mind set of this particular liberal. That mindset being "people are generally not completely capable of making their own decisions and being responsible for their actions, so government should help them with the decisions when it can and protect them from consequences when they are 'too harsh' ".

Furthermore, an individual KNOWs that there are different stages to life, and that it will eventually progress into and through those stages. We all knew we were gonna be able to drive, then vote, then get a real job, kids, house, middle age, (hopefully) retirement, and dirt nap. And that it all occurs on a strait-line ever-progressing time continuum. The “consciousness of society” does not know ANY of that. Society segments, goes backwards, is different things in different places, and has neither the simple construct of timeline nor unifying mind to even HAVE consciousness.

It is like calling a bee hive a brain.

Thank you Rick for putting this out there.
CLASSIC liberal smarterthanyouholierthanthou bullchit.
snowwolf777
15 years ago
[Peter Michaelson, that's who!
The qualifications he chooses to tell prospective clients on his web site:
>>>>>>>>>
I am a former journalist and science writer and, since the mid-1980s, a therapist, author, and teacher. My method is based on powerful knowledge that exposes how, in our psyche, we hold on to unresolved negative emotions that create unhappiness and limit our potential.

I have recently opened a new practice in Ann Arbor, MI (734-222-1499), and I do telephone sessions with clients throughout the United States and Canada. I uncover and write about major aspects of human nature that the psychological establishment overlooks.


Journalist, science writer, (telephone) therapist, author, teacher, barista, lawn care expert, and international man of mystery. Surprised he hasn't gotten the Nobel Prize for his ground-breaking "research" yet.

Lumpa
15 years ago
What a putz.

If you wanna say things like
I think life should be easier for everyone,
negative consequences should be partially (or fully) covered by society rather than the individual
etc.
etc.

Fine.
Say it.
I even agreed with a lot of it at one point.

Then we can have a discussion about society's priorities, unintended moral consequence, etc.

But don't try to put yourself on a psuedo academic/intellectual pedestal, while attempting to belittle those who disagree with you.

And if that's what you want to do, you gotta bring A LOT more than this guy did.

Kawak
15 years ago
According to surveys most peenis' lean to the left... 💤
wheelrite
15 years ago

According to surveys most peenis' lean to the left... 💤

Kawak wrote:



not mine,,,

long and straight.Like my golf shots,,,
elk hunter
15 years ago

MACS

in 1963 i stopped working for anyone else and
all the money i have made since then was on commission only.
no guarantee of pay except what i earned by my own sweat and work ethic.

any teats i suckled were in passion.

both of my sons in their mid 40's are self employed, married once and own their own homes.

RICKAMAVEN wrote:



Then how in the world do you buy into the Liberal BS you constantly spew????


RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
tailgater 18

me a conservative? i never suspected.
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
You're preaching what you practice.
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
Kawak 27

i think you are confusing what a tailor asks when custom
making a pair of pants. do you dress left or right? meaning
which leg of your pants do you put your ****. that way he can
tell which leg to leave a little more room


i spelled it p e n i s and it got censored.

le's try d ic k.
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
elk hunter 29

the way i live my life does not exclude rachmones for others
incapable of fending for themselves.


Rachmones - Compassions, mercy, pity;
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
Wish not want not!🐴
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago

wheelrite 28

there once was a man from trent
whose **** was so long it was bent

to save himself trouble
he put it in double

instead of coming, he went.

DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
snowwolf777
15 years ago

elk hunter 29

the way i live my life does not exclude rachmones for others
incapable of fending for themselves.


Rachmones - Compassions, mercy, pity;

RICKAMAVEN wrote:




I think we're almost there Rick.

I don't believe for a second there is anyone on this board who would disagree with your statement, and most conduct their lives in a similar manner.

Where it gets lost in all these debates is there is a group of us who don't like be told by the Federal Government who we WILL have rachmones for. And then pay for it with our tax dollars. As an example, The Cowboy Poetry Festival in Nevada. I don't have much rachomones for it. But it had Harry "the mummy" Reid all sad and worried a couple days ago because the awful Republicans wanted to cut their Federal handout. Same for the Neon Sign Graveyard, and the catfish genome project, and a whole lot of other ratholes have nada to do with rachmones.

Finally, I cannot find it written anywhere in the Constitution that because of the way someone decides to conduct their life - let's say for the sake of argument they have mutliple children out of wedlock while living in poverty - that I am responsible to pay for it.

I must pay for it, but I have no input prior to the issue being created, nor do I really have any input going forward. Because I will be told this is America, and they're free to have as many kids as they want while living in abject poverty. So butt out. Except of course for footing the bill. In fact, go work some overtime, 'cause we need to raise taxes again.

Have a great weekend!



Stinkdyr
15 years ago
Illiberal lefty socialists simply don't value FREEDOM.



](*,)
jpotts
15 years ago



Not every modern conservative had a grandpa who made moonshine whiskey. With no family history of being pursued by federal revenuers, where does their extreme dislike of government come from?

RICKAMAVEN wrote:



King George, Adolph Hitler, and Josef Stalin.

Consequently, that's where liberals' love of big government comes from...
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
snowwolf777 37

very interesting point you brought up.

i saw an interview with a women in her mid 30's single, one child, who works full time doing
something with computers. no food stamps no aid, she can handle what she dealt herself.

she had a sister about 6 or 7 and she was 9 or 10. no father, mother died, her family decided to
raise them but they were in two different homes, both aunts or uncles. she and her sister lived
near each other so sthey were still a close group.

her sister apparently was a jerk and had 8 kids and just died.

she didn't want the kids to be spread out all over the place and not be a family so she either
adopted them all or just moved them all into her home. i believe she is buying the home so she
doesn't have to deal with more people in the home then the landlord would have allowed.

we of course, are now paying for the kids food stamps, and whatever the state gives her to help her.

so what should we do, you and i, break up the family or give her a few bucks to keep them
together. she will wash them and dress them, and feed them and raise them, with a little financial
help from us.

so, what do you want to do about the problem?
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