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fishinguitarman
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#21

a myopic point of view...

and with all due respect,

Nobody here is forced to read ,respond or participate in any given discussion...

wheel,,

wheelrite wrote:

He posted his opinion, you posted yours, and I posted mine. I think I understand that it is an option whether to post or not, but thanks for the advice...

Edited by user 15 years ago | Reason: Not specified

wheelrite
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#22

He posted his opinion, you posted yours, and I posted mine. I think I understand that it is an option whether to post or not, but thanks for the advice...

fishinguitarman wrote:

ya know I still luv ya...

fishinguitarman
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#23

ya know I still luv ya...

wheelrite wrote:

Back at cha my brutha!

gringococolo
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#24

FGM,

I celebrated yesterday. I probably always will now on May 1st. The whole "flower thing" really isn't my style.

There seems to be politics in your mind also. They way I read your statement "The right decision by Obama? The decision was made and carried out by our military. Obama merely approved it" shows it.

I don't care. I don't like Obama at all and I believe he is a terrible president and has been an embarassment since taking office. He has done nothing good EXCEPT this;

Obama showed some serious balls to authorize an operation like this. There were several elements that could have gone terribly wrong both militarily and politicaly for him. He has to be given credit to taking some serious risks.

Those Special Forces guys that executed this mission have probably done other operations that pale in comparison to the dangers of this one. More than likely they where chosen for their training that was task oriented to this mission. (think facial recognition equipment, evidence collection, etc...) Any of the services Special Forces (SEALS, Marine Force Recon, Green Berets, PJ's maybe even), could execute a relatively simple extraction like this one.

Are they (military and CIA) heroes yes. But I have to say I find this to be the ONLY heroic thing President Obama has done during his presidency. To fail to give him credit shows a blindness that IMO, is clearly political.

Nothing wrong with having an opinion, I understand the timelyness of these postings can be offensive. But how many of the same folks on this board probably did the exact same thing post 9-11 blaming Clinton etc...

Politics are politics, anyone that spends time arguing (vice discussion) them in a attempt to change someones mind with grasp at any event for perceived leverage.

I generally take FuzzNJ's posts as a laughing matter. Wheels posts are a close second even when they both try and be serious.

Yesterday was a great day and a great victory by this president. I will always give him his due for that. I smoked a WOAM and an Oliva V, good times.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#25

gringococolo wrote:

=d> =d>

FuzzNJ
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#26

Remember Obama also approved going after and killing the pirates who took Americans hostage.

kwenner
Aficionado

15 years ago

#27

FGM said : The brave souls that allow you to enjoy your freedom made this happen, and those that want to cry about this being a right/left issue need to get the FU*# Out!

HOO-yah bro...

I don't know if anyone remembers that the Bin Laden family are business associates of the Bush family's. I agree that we attacked the wrong country in the beginning but we took another figure who wanted to destroy the American way of life and did it before any of his crazy kids could come into power or join the Osama cause...

There isn't a President that killed anyone, except maybe GW (George Washington not Bush). It was an underpaid, true public servant that is putting their life in harms way to defend the way we live.

On to the way we live... Mr. Obama pass the spending bill for 2011 with a DOD budget of $1,413,000,000,000.00. This is 20 times higher than number 2, China, who is supposed to be our ally. With this kind of spending we are not going to be able to continue "our way of life." The American dollar continues to drop, which in turn makes everything more expensive and unaffordable to those who are losing their jobs and not making any money. We are spending roughly 10% of the national debt to defend ourselves when just 10 years ago the bill was $291,100,000,000.00. Do the math, in 10 years we have almost QUADRUPLED the defense budget.

It makes me question:

#1. Who are we defending ourselves from?

And #2. Is there an Alien attack coming that we are trying to prepare for? The Space Invader kind...

You guys rock and I love to hear both sides and POVs... [frypan]

FuzzNJ
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#28

KW, would those who are praising the seals now (and rightly so) be blaming them had the mission failed? Of course not. They would be blaming Obama and asking for his impeachment. No one blames the military for the 1979 hostage rescue attempt in Iran, they blame Carter. So if the President would take the blame for the failure, he should take credit for a success. Every one who says otherwise is playing politics.

And you are totally correct about the DOD budget being too large. It has almost doubled since 9/11 and the DOD can't even account for billions with every branch using different systems to keep track of the money. It's crazy. I do think your figure for the DOD budget is a bit off though, I did not look it up.

fishinguitarman
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#29

I don't know why I bother....There are none so blind as those who don't want to see....

There are now only 5 forums to post on...I'M FREE!

Buh Bye..............

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#30

I don't know why I bother....There are none so blind as those who don't want to see....

fishinguitarman wrote:

Blind people are more blind than that.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#31

There are now only 5 forums to post on...I'M FREE!

Buh Bye..............

fishinguitarman wrote:

WIMPY OUTRAGE!

Stinkdyr
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#32

I haven't been this happy about an un-American scumbag dying since Ted Kennedy bit the dust.

(oh, did I say that out loud?)

🇨🇮

kwenner
Aficionado

15 years ago

#33

Fuzz... You ever played sports? When you lose it is the COACH's fault (Obama), and when you win it is the TEAM's victory (the US Military). If it wasn't for the young men and women who sign up to be paid $1500 a month to risk their lives defending the great nation that I live in there wouldn't have been anyone to pull a trigger. Obama, and the rest of the Presidents, get paid a LOT more and only have to wield a pen to authorize said trigger to be pulled.

Fuzz... Did you serve in a military branch?

Fuzz... The DOD budget has gone from $300 Billion to $1.4 Trillion which WAY more than "almost doubled."

Remember this includes all branches of American defense (i.e. Homeland, Military, Secret programs).

FuzzNJ
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#34

I haven't been this happy about an un-American scumbag dying since Ted Kennedy bit the dust.

(oh, did I say that out loud?)

🇨🇮

Stinkdyr wrote:

Classy

kwenner
Aficionado

15 years ago

#35

I haven't been this happy about an un-American scumbag dying since Ted Kennedy bit the dust.

(oh, did I say that out loud?)

🇨🇮

Stinkdyr wrote:

Talking about a brain fart... 🤦 😣 🤤 😴 (all the faces he made in the final moments)

Papachristou
Aficionado

15 years ago

#36

I have done no such thing. The right's refusal to give the administration credit for this accomplishment is un-American and un-patriotic.

Seriously, it's f'd up.

FuzzNJ wrote:

you are right, its f'ed up that you cant realize the same people are working at the CIA and NSA that started the hunt for bin laden under Bush. Bush started the hunt, Obama finished it. If their roles had been reversed, nothing would have changed, Obama would have started the hunt and Bush would have finished.

American soldiers, NSA, CIA and countless other agencies/officers and most importantly AMERICANS have been working on this for ten years. They deserve the true credit since they work tirelessly no matter what puppet is running the country. My hats off to them =d>

kwenner
Aficionado

15 years ago

#37

I totally agree Papa... I served for 5 years and never once did I get to sit in a big cooshy office and sign papers. Obama never served in our military, so in my eyes he doesn't get credit for being the victor. The men and women in uniform do, they are the ones who trained day and night for God knows how long for that one moment where Osama gets a bullet through the turbin...

I can't even compare Obama to a coach he is more like the team owner, sits in the box seats, in no danger of someone even spilling a drink on him. At least Bush would have given credit to the military...

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#38

🤔 🤔
I wonder if anyone took BinLaden's scalp..??

FuzzNJ
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#39

At least Bush would have given credit to the military...

kwenner wrote:

What? You're saying Obama did not?

"Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we've made great strides in that effort. We've disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and al Qaeda safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of al Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot."

"Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who've worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice."

"We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day."

Right from the damn speech he made on Sunday night.

Also, I have seen Andy Card, Condi Rice and Peter King all on television saying Bush deserves credit. Rush and Hannity have been saying the same thing. That's who I know of and heard, there are probably many more. So as a liberal/Democrat we should not say great job Mr. President and let those on the right take credit when they are not even in office?

Ridiculous.

FuzzNJ
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#40

:-k 🤔
I wonder if anyone took BinLaden's scalp..??

DrafterX wrote:

That's what I like to hear. But I got a word of warning for all you would-be warriors. When you join my command, you take on debit. A debit you owe me personally. Each and every man under my command owes me one hundred Nazi scalps. And I want my scalps. And all y'all will git me one hundred Nazi scalps, taken from the heads of one hundred dead Nazis. Or you will die tryin'.

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