HockeyDad
15 years ago


Petroleum is the cheapest most reliable fuel available now.Natural Gas will replace oil not high priced bio fuels.

wheelrite wrote:





The USA imports oil.
The USA imports gasoline.
The USA imports natural gas.


Choose the form of the Destructor!
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HockeyDad
15 years ago


The Free market knows best...

wheelrite wrote:




Keep waiting for Atlas to shrug!
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DrafterX
15 years ago
We should be burning hemp!!! 😠
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wheelrite
15 years ago

The USA imports oil.
The USA imports gasoline.
The USA imports natural gas.

HockeyDad wrote:



I beg to differ.We export huge amounts of gasoline too


U.S. Energy Information Administration - EIA - Independent Statistics and AnalysisSources & Uses Petroleum & Ot

U.S. exports of motor gasoline hit an all-time high in November 2010. The bulk of the record-level motor gasoline exports went to Mexico, where refinery maintenance during the month resulted in a tightening of gasoline supplies. November gasoline exports were equivalent to 5% of U.S. gasoline consumption.

U.S. exports of motor gasoline (including finished motor gasoline and motor gasoline blending components) hit a record level in November 2010 of 457 thousand barrels per day. The last time gasoline exports exceeded 400 thousand barrels per day was April 1945 when they were 419 thousand barrels per day.

About 92% of the exports were shipped from the U.S. Gulf Coast (PAD District 3), and about 70% of the exports went to Mexico.

Refinery maintenance in Mexico during the month resulted in a tightening of gasoline supplies in that country. Mexico has 6 refineries with a total capacity of about 1.5 million barrels per day, but the country consumed nearly 2.1 million barrels per day of petroleum products during 2009.

November 2010 data were consistent with the typical regional patterns for gasoline imports and exports. During all of 2009, 86% of U.S. motor gasoline imports entered into the East Coast, while 83% of U.S. motor gasoline exports were shipped from the Gulf Coast.

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teedubbya
15 years ago
5%
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jpotts
15 years ago

Keep waiting for Atlas to shrug!

HockeyDad wrote:



He won't need to when his pants are around his ankles.
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HockeyDad
15 years ago
U.S. DOE Weekly Petroleum Status Report for June 10 (Text)

Following is the text of the weekly Petroleum Status Report from the U.S. Department of Energy:

U.S. crude oil refinery inputs averaged about 14.9 million barrels per day during the week ending June 10, 243 thousand barrels per day below the previous week’s average. Refineries operated at 86.1 percent of their operable capacity last week. Gasoline production increased last week, averaging about 9.5 million barrels per day. Distillate fuel production decreased last week, averaging 4.3 million barrels per day.

U.S. crude oil imports averaged 8.6 million barrels per day last week, up by 38 thousand barrels per day from the previous week. Over the last four weeks, crude oil imports have averaged nearly 9.0 million barrels per day, 657 thousand barrels per day below the same four-week period last year.

Total motor gasoline imports (including both finished gasoline and gasoline blending components) last week averaged 1.1 million barrels per day. Distillate fuel imports averaged 125 thousand barrels per day last week.




Based on your record breaking month last November, we still import twice as much finished gasoline than we exported.

Scoreboard.
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wheelrite
15 years ago

5%

teedubbya wrote:



5% is large amount ...

There is no shortage of gasoline or oil.We have nowhere to store the supply on hand.Tankers are sitting off shore for months loaded with oil.Because,if they drop it then it counts as inventory and the price will continue to fall.
Without speculation oil should be no more than $70 a barrel.

btw,
the bottom is dropping out of the oil market,now.

The Free Market and stuff...

maybe Atlas IS shrugging...
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teedubbya
15 years ago

5% is large amount ....

wheelrite wrote:



spoken as someone who is in the fifth percentile for male height in the US (7th in Japan!)
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wheelrite
15 years ago

U.S. DOE Weekly Petroleum Status Report for June 10 (Text)

Following is the text of the weekly Petroleum Status Report from the U.S. Department of Energy:

U.S. crude oil refinery inputs averaged about 14.9 million barrels per day during the week ending June 10, 243 thousand barrels per day below the previous week’s average. Refineries operated at 86.1 percent of their operable capacity last week. Gasoline production increased last week, averaging about 9.5 million barrels per day. Distillate fuel production decreased last week, averaging 4.3 million barrels per day.

U.S. crude oil imports averaged 8.6 million barrels per day last week, up by 38 thousand barrels per day from the previous week. Over the last four weeks, crude oil imports have averaged nearly 9.0 million barrels per day, 657 thousand barrels per day below the same four-week period last year.

Total motor gasoline imports (including both finished gasoline and gasoline blending components) last week averaged 1.1 million barrels per day. Distillate fuel imports averaged 125 thousand barrels per day last week.




Based on your record breaking month last November, we still import twice as much finished gasoline than we exported.

Scoreboard.

HockeyDad wrote:



I did'nt say that we don't imort gasoline.I pointed out that we export it as well.Thus,there is no oil or gasoline shortage.Therefore ethanol is not needed and is a scam..

game ,set ,match...
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teedubbya
15 years ago
I took some gensing tea with me to canada and left it at the resort. therefor we also export gensing!
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jpotts
15 years ago
Wasn't teedubbya that said that men of Texas have high estrogen levels?
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teedubbya
15 years ago

Wasn't teedubbya that said that men of Texas have high estrogen levels?

jpotts wrote:



that is probably true.

and if you moved to canada we could say we export f a g s.
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jpotts
15 years ago
You'd be the first export to Canada then.
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HockeyDad
15 years ago

I did'nt say that we don't imort gasoline.I pointed out that we export it as well.Thus,there is no oil or gasoline shortage.Therefore ethanol is not needed and is a scam..

game ,set ,match...

wheelrite wrote:





You are the only one who used the word "shortage" on this thread. Ethanol is and was never about meeting a shortage of gasoline. You are creating your own argument!

The USA imports oil.
The USA imports gasoline.
The USA imports natural gas.


Choose the form of the Destructor!

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wheelrite
15 years ago

The Global Renewable Fuels Alliance (GRFA) in cooperation with F.O. Licht released its global annual ethanol production forecast. The GRFA forecasts ethanol production to hit 23.4 billion gallons in 2011 replacing the need for 1 million barrels of crude oil per day worldwide. This highlights the growing impact that ethanol production is having on reducing the world’s reliance on crude oil.

HockeyDad wrote:



Your quote implies as much..
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HockeyDad
15 years ago

Your quote implies as much..

wheelrite wrote:





No it doesn't.
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jpotts
15 years ago
Yes...yes it does.
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stogiemonger
15 years ago
Heralded by Bush and now Obama as a good sustainable replacement fuel for gasoline. But is it?

A little quick research will clearly show that ethanol mandates by the government have already resulted in many unintended consequences. Here are just a few, increased ground ozone pollution directly as a result of burning ethanol fuels (ozone pollutant a byproduct of burning this fuel), increases of nitrogen pollution in waterways from fertilizers used to grow corn (contributes greatly to the annual dead zone (hypoxia) in the Gulf of Mexico), increases in food prices (due to gov. mandates that a percentage of all corn grown must go towards ethanol production= higher prices for consumable corn for humans as well as livestock), ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline, so to meet the same energy demands, more gallons of ethanol would have to be produced, damage done to many engines across the nation (especially outboard boat engines).

I'm no expert in this field, to say the least, but, the more I read about ethanol fuel, the angrier I get that our government is shoving another bad pill down our throats. I did not get My information from Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck etc., This information can be had even at sources such as NPR, Scientific America, Climate Central, Green America etc. So, do some research of your own and inform your friends so that the U.S. Government can be pushed to stop this stupidity.

We should be rallying together from left to right to stop government ethanol mandates now!


http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/posts/601239/Ethanol 
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HockeyDad
15 years ago
NASCAR uses 15% ethanol mixture.

IndyCar uses 100% ethanol.



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