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apachelm
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14 years ago

wonder if the POTUS will laugh it off again?

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HockeyDad
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14 years ago

Businesses do not want to hire in the anti-business climate that President Obama created. The solution is to raise corporate taxes so we can increase government hiring.

OldSchool
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14 years ago

The Blame the Republicans presser starts at 10:35 EST...

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OldSchool
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14 years ago

This clown has been so wrong about EVERYTHING I wouldn't trust his word if he said the sun would rise in the morning tommorow...#-o

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

It's been 249 days since the Republicans took over the House vowing to create jobs. Where are the jobs?

(I think it's 249)

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

Prolly stuck in the Senate or the White House.

OldSchool
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14 years ago

You want jobs? Get Abdul Mustafa off of the following topics

1. Tax the Rich
2. Obama(couldn't)Care(less)

jackconrad
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14 years ago

Delayed by those Redlight cameras

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

It is more than just "Tax the Rich". The bigger threat is "Tax the Corporations!"

Everyone knows that ultimately the solution to our budget deficits, the national debt, preserving government size, and our precarious credit rating is to tax everyone and that leads to an overall slowdown in personal and corporate spending.

Reduce personal and corporate spending.........reduce jobs.

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#10

HockeyDad wrote:

Corporations don't pay anywhere close to 35%. GE payed 7.9 and the majority pay around half of the 35%. Tax from corporate profits is around 1% of GDP, really low. They have access to the greatest market in the world (for now) and the loopholes should be removed before the nominal rate is reduced.

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

#11

When you remove the loopholes, profits will be reduced, prices will be raised, or business will move offshore. If profits are reduced, stock prices are hit and that hurts 401Ks and pension funds.

When we go after the corporations, the law of unintended consequences comes into play.

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#12

HockeyDad wrote:

Corporate profits are at record highs, even with an 'anti-business' President.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/profit-chart.JPG

The no more taxes because it will kill the economy etc is pure propaganda. Taxes were cut a few times the last 10 years and it was supposed to stimulate the ecomony and create jobs, but boom it went anyway.

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

#13

Taxes were cut a few times the last 10 years and it was supposed to stimulate the economy and create jobs, but boom it went anyway.

FuzzNJ wrote:

You left out the part about how it stimulated the economy and created jobs....then went boom. Boom happens.

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#14

CBS was running interference for BHO this morning......its a TRAINING issue not a LACK OF JOBS!

yes more govt. programs!!!!!!!!

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..........

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#15

You left out the part about how it stimulated the economy and created jobs....then went boom. Boom happens.

HockeyDad wrote:

Because it didn't happen. Average annual increase W's first term 0.0, second +0.1

As a comparison under Clinton, where taxes were actually raised, first term +2.6 second +2.3

Funny too, the highest since I've been alive has been Johnson +3.9 and Carter +3.2, then Clinton. Strange, huh?

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

#16

Clinton's two terms were coming out of a recession. Bush's two terms were going into a recession.

So you are going to stand on "Raising taxes creates jobs"?

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#17

Deviation of talking points results in loosing your card.

OldSchool
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14 years ago

#18

The only thing that is shovel-ready is this douchknuckle's speeches...[frypan]

apachelm
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14 years ago

#19

FuzzNJ wrote:

But according to the Dems this economy has to do with the prior administration's policies not this one. So that means that the Republican Presidents set the table for Carter and Clinton right? And that Clinton set the table for W?

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#20

You left out the part about how it stimulated the economy and created jobs....then went boom. Boom happens.

HockeyDad wrote:

First, are you going to admit that the statement above is total crap and you just made it up?

Clinton's two terms were coming out of a recession. Bush's two terms were going into a recession.

HockeyDad wrote:

Ah, so Obama now is inheriting a situation much much worse than what Clinton inherited, right? Doesn't seem like you are willing to cut him the same slack. I wonder why that is? I thought you said you were logical and not a partisan hack?

So you are going to stand on "Raising taxes creates jobs"?

HockeyDad wrote:

No, I'm saying that cutting taxes does not necessarily equal creating jobs and raising taxes does not necessarily equal losing jobs. The entire argument is simplistic, stupid and made for people like us to argue about when the real situation is much, much more complicated. The cutting taxes thing is merely the Republican party looking out for its base while framing it as a job creating package.

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