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ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#21

"The way these wackos are planning to do things to us these days isn't the same as previous threats to our country" .

Right our CIA never trained pilots for the attacks on Pearl Harbor.

wheelrite
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#22

He was also arrested twice for Solicting a Prostitute in Seattle ,, A model Muslim...

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#23

They encourage this behavior to blend in when amongst the infidels. Lying is o.k. to them if its done to ultimately defeat th enemies of allah.

ShiftyMac
Connoisseur Topic Starter

14 years ago

#24

I'm not defending him and I am aware he wasn't a model Muslim by any means. This doesn't mean the constitution shouldn't be applied. All I wan't people to think about is that small things like this pave the way for larger things to come on bigger scales. I don't think the gov't is just going to start waxing everyone they dislike but an exception here or there isn't ok. Either we all get due process or there becomes someone who is judge juror and excecutioner and I don't trust anyone enough to hold that position,

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#25

Ruby ridge, Waco, tea party........whoever the "deciderer in chief" is deciding. Sleep well sheep.

dpnewell
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#26

I'm going against the flow and siding with ShiftyMac and ZRX on this one folks. As an American Citizen, the scumbag traitor should have been grabbed and brought to trial, not executed without due process. Don't forget, some in the MSM as well as some Dems have labeled the Teaparty and those of us who own guns and hold Libertarian views as "potential terrorists".

ShiftyMac
Connoisseur Topic Starter

14 years ago

#27

I believe the technical term given to us by Homeland Security was "Domestic Terrorist" but they're the gov't so they must know whats best for us

dubleuhb
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#28

Right our CIA never trained pilots for the attacks on Pearl Harbor.

ZRX1200 wrote:

Reach for something all you want, If someone is plotting to do harm to this country or it's citizens then they have crossed the line. So we should just let this piece of crap go on about his way and maybe someday he succeeds, great call. I will lose no sleep over a terrorist taking a dirtnap if it means pushing the limits some. This piece of camel crap lost his rights as soon as he turned on his country. Sure it would have been better if he would have been brought to trial but as long as he stayed in Yemen and their government would not cooperate with him being returned to us then we must do as we must to protect the people of this country.
Then again whe can just wait for him to get it right one time, that would be so much better.](*,)

dubleuhb
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#29

dpnewell wrote:

What the news or some soundbite of the day politician says about me or anyone else with my beliefs is not the same. They are trying to stir the pot only because they are losing the debate. The facts are this guy was known about for years and was actively planning to do harm to the USA. It is only because of the availability of information today that this was known in my opinion. These kind of preemptive measures have been going on for ever and if they stop one attack then so be it.

ShiftyMac
Connoisseur Topic Starter

14 years ago

#30

He wasn't a terrorist he never killed anyoneand by your logic people in groups such as the KKK or Black Panthers or any white supremacy group, anyhing of that nature that advocates the death of people should all be killed. No trial nothing like that just kill them, kill anyone who thinks someone in America should die. Not exactly the foundation this country was built on. Way to throw in the camel comment too. i didn't know there were a lot of camels in New Mexico where he was from but I might be misinformed. And no contrary to what you may think advocating the death of Americans does not mean your forfeit your rights. He was clearly a fucked up guy no one is denying that, that doesn't mean you get to decide if he lives or not without a trial we can save that for the totalitarian regimes around the world but not the U.S.

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#31

Ok. Disagreement with you is loosing a debate then I plead guilty.

Al Queda works for us. I'm grasping at nothing. You are loosing grasp of your freedoms while the boogyman waves faux terrorists @U.

ShiftyMac
Connoisseur Topic Starter

14 years ago

#32

I'll make sure to get a "feel" of things first before I post. Thanks for the advice...

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#33

Crazy Uncle Rick!

Don't forget to post "poop" alot either.

And i got my my degree from Fuller Brush co.

RICKAMAVEN
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#34

ShiftyMac

you are new to this asylum. first find out where the toilets are,
then find out out when we have scheduled coffee breaks.
get a feel of the place. find out if the neighbor's dog is vicious.

you have entered the twilight zone where up can be down
or horizontal.

as a generalization a lot of posters have graduated from high
schools, some have GED's.

what no one lacks is an opinion, sometimes based on a
knowledge of the facts, most of the time based on prejudices.
it's an American tradition.

invade, kill the original inhabitants, with bullets or political
correctness like giving them bedding tainted with disease,
measles works well. or teach them how to pick the fruit and
vegetables you are going to raise on your new land.
.
repeat this process on every unprotected hunk o land you can
find and take over.now you're talking business.

when you are a world power. who is going to argue with you.
where is it written a postal service can sell you insurance,
or charge extra for a faster horse.

for good luck, kill a chicken.

dubleuhb
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#35

He wasn't a terrorist he never killed anyoneand by your logic people in groups such as the KKK or Black Panthers or any white supremacy group, anyhing of that nature that advocates the death of people should all be killed. No trial nothing like that just kill them, kill anyone who thinks someone in America should die. Not exactly the foundation this country was built on. Way to throw in the camel comment too. i didn't know there were a lot of camels in New Mexico where he was from but I might be misinformed. And no contrary to what you may think advocating the death of Americans does not mean your forfeit your rights. He was clearly a ****ed up guy no one is denying that, that doesn't mean you get to decide if he lives or not without a trial we can save that for the totalitarian regimes around the world but not the U.S.

ShiftyMac wrote:

You seem pretty sure that he ever killed anyone, while I am not. It may not have been directly at his hands but he definitely had a hand in it. Whether it is by association or by direct participation it is still the same. What problem do you have with the camel crap, I could have just as easily said cow crap but you seem to want to read more into it than it was right ? Would Yemen officials give him to us for a proper trial ? NO, so we are suppose to just sit back and wait for him to plan more of his jihad? As for your comparison to all those groups you say I would just kill them your wrong. They are here and I'm sure are well monitored and an indictment can be easily delivered and then brought to trial. It was not going to happen with this guy.
BTW your first line ''he wasn't a terrorist'' is just comical.

RICKAMAVEN
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#36

the Bill of Rights ?

didn't BusH and cheney and all the rest of that gang eliminate the right to petition a court for grievances like "why am i in a prison without being charged with anything..

wasn't that in the magna carta.13th century

Edited by user 14 years ago | Reason: Not specified

borndead1
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#37

We need to look further down the road with cases like this, instead of going with our gut reaction of "he deserved what he got" or "I'm glad he's dead" or "he was a terrorist".

Where does it end? What's next, if a regular old U.S. citizen is wanted for a regular old murder, should he be assassinated? Would people's opinions be different if Anwar-al Awlaki had no links to Al-Queda? What if he was a "right wing extremist" who actually killed someone?

I agree that it sets a dangerous precedent.

Edited by user 14 years ago | Reason: Not specified

borndead1
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#38

RICKAMAVEN wrote:

Rick, quit being a dumbass. You can't pin any of this on Bush and Cheney. Your hero Obama gave the green light on this. The blood is on HIS hands.

dubleuhb
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#39

The left condones murder everyday in this country, I don't see that being a problem amongst them.

dpnewell
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#40

I'll make sure to get a "feel" of things first before I post. Thanks for the advice...

ShiftyMac wrote:

Don't let these guys scare you off. There are quite a few Libertarians on this board, who have the same concerns as you.

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