People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered, and if we’re compassionate we’ll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint.

MACS wrote:

Never watched their shows. Not very familiar with them, aside from knowing they do shows in Vegas.

I just thought he said some very poignant things, there.

MACS wrote:

Democracy by force of the gun in Iraq an obvious exception

"I'm absolutely confident that the actions we took in Iraq are influencing reformers and freedom lovers in the greater Middle East. And I believe that you're going to see the rise of democracy in many countries in the broader Middle East"

"I must say, I'm a little envious. If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed. It must be exciting for you ... in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You're really making history, and thanks."

"The establishment of a free Iraq at the heart of the Middle East will be a watershed event in the global democratic revolution."

W

"Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too much money."

George Carlin

FuzzNJ wrote:

Penn Jillette strikes me as "that guy" who has to be the loudest and brashest mofo in the room at all times.
You know, the guy who starts 92.4% of his sentences with "So I told him..."

tailgater wrote:

George Carlin was the funniest **** alive.
Until he started preaching his politics during his shows.
Some comdians can use politics or anger to their advantage.
Bill Mayer or Dennis Miller are actually funnier when using politics as the punch line (for instance).
George Carlin just came across as pathetic.
It was like your favorite slugger getting caught with steroids and then barely hitting the Mendoza Line.

tailgater wrote:

Hilarious and accurate description but he's straight up libertarian and that describes pretty much every libertarian I've ever met.

FuzzNJ wrote:

To each their own. I don't find Maher or Miller very funny at all, but Carlin top 3 of all time with Pryor and Bill Hicks for me.

FuzzNJ wrote:

I've watched those two for years, and I can remember plenty of times when his rant was much too far to the left for any true Libertarian. I probably only rember this because it struck me as odd when it occurred, since he gives an appearance of being a heartless pr*ck with no soul, and that moniker is ussally applied exclusively to convervatives.

tailgater wrote:

Carlin was THE funniest. That is why it bothered me so much.

And I would never suggest that Miller or Maher were in the same league. Just simply that Politics IS their schtick.
Some can use it casually. Some can even go on an occassional rant.

But when George Carlin used the last third of his live shows to preach?
I don't know. Maybe it was the Opportunity Loss. The fact that I was denied more of his genius and had it replaced with sophomoric and uneducated opinion.

tailgater wrote:

And who is Bill Hicks?

tailgater wrote:

I wouldn't be so sure about that really. Ron Paul, a libertarian running as a republican, thought it was just fine to let people just die if they couldn't afford a doctor, and he took the Hippocratic oath. ;)

FuzzNJ wrote: