HockeyDad
14 years ago

So, what does Romania have to do with all of this ?

jetblasted wrote:




They are in range of Iran's nuclear missiles and the USA needs to go to war to protect them.
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jetblasted
14 years ago
I doubt any will be fired in their direction . . .
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HockeyDad
14 years ago

I doubt any will be fired in their direction . . .

jetblasted wrote:




That may be true but just in case.....the USA should go to war with Iran.
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frankj1
14 years ago

So, what does Romania have to do with all of this ?

jetblasted wrote:


HD's way of being provocative.
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HockeyDad
14 years ago
Frankj1 believes that if a country pisses off Israel, the USA should go to war with that country. Republican candidates are tripping all over themselves to race to the microphone to say the exact same thing.

Unfortunately, Frankj1 refuses to extend this same protection to Romania.




The American public is being softened up for a new war and any and all unintended consequences. Soon we'll be thumping our chests demanding that we attack Iran. (Just like they already are doing in Israel)

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frankj1
14 years ago

Provocative to Israel, not the USA or Romania. USA and Romanian foreign policy (should) not be dictated by Israel.

HockeyDad wrote:


That's what you asked, has Iran done anything provocative to the US OR Israel.
And you answered "to Israel". So you agree that Israel has reason to get worked up in light of provocative actions and threats. Good.

So this may be one time you support Israel if they treat Iran's nuke program the same way they treated Iraq's...then you won't be blaming them if they act with a preemptive strike in order to avoid the inconvenience of being wiped off the face of the earth?
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HockeyDad
14 years ago


That's what you asked, has Iran done anything provocative to the US OR Israel.
And you answered "to Israel". So you agree that Israel has reason to get worked up in light of provocative actions and threats. Good.

So this may be one time you support Israel if they treat Iran's nuke program the same way they treated Iraq's...then you won't be blaming them if they act with a preemptive strike in order to avoid the inconvenience of being wiped off the face of the earth?

frankj1 wrote:





This goes the other way as well. Israel threatens to bomb Iran on a near daily basis. That also is provocative. so Iran has reason to get worked up. So I guess Iran could act with a preemptive strike in order to avoid the inconvenience of an Israeli attack.

We just need to figure out how to make it all happen.

Option A: Convince the USA to start the war and send their sons and daughters into harms way.
Option B: Israel starts the war but the USA pays for it.

Both options are workable. It is gonna be a beautiful thing!
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frankj1
14 years ago

This goes the other way as well. Israel threatens to bomb Iran on a near daily basis. That also is provocative. so Iran has reason to get worked up. So I guess Iran could act with a preemptive strike in order to avoid the inconvenience of an Israeli attack.

We just need to figure out how to make it all happen.

Option A: Convince the USA to start the war and send their sons and daughters into harms way.
Option B: Israel starts the war but the USA pays for it.

Both options are workable. It is gonna be a beautiful thing!

HockeyDad wrote:


You introduce red herrings all over the place that has confused both me and Jet, probably lots of others.

Please clarify your stance for the readers regarding:

Any threats Israel has made to wipe out anyone, out of the blue, without being threatened? For sure, they always reply to overt threats that every one has heard, even you heard it, like Iran did. Yet Iran escapes your criticism? Their target is blamed? We are confused. Explain why Iran is in your "favored nations" circle.

Are you really a supporter of Iran's rights to obliterate Israel, then blame Israel for it?

So you are stating that even when their very existence is threatened in international proclamations, Israel is the bad guy when they reply that they will not stand for it?
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HockeyDad
14 years ago
Keep it real simple......

Should the USA go to war with Iran?

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jetblasted
14 years ago
Funny how we're pulling out of 2 countries that border Iran, when we could've squeezed them from both sides . . .
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frankj1
14 years ago

Keep it real simple......

Should the USA go to war with Iran?

HockeyDad wrote:


no.

Just as simple, do you think Iran is planning to decimate Israel?
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HockeyDad
14 years ago
Now it terms of Israel being threatened, Israel has maintained nuclear weapons since the early 1970s or even into the late 1960s. The standing threat to everyone and anyone is that if Israel goes down, they are taking everyone in the Middle East with them in a sea of nuclear fire. That threat from Israel has never been retracted.

Now Israel is the victim if one or more of the nations that live under this Israeli threat tries to develop their own nuclear weapon. This is what nuclear proliferation is all about and now we're supposed to act shocked and outraged!

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frankj1
14 years ago

Now it terms of Israel being threatened, Israel has maintained nuclear weapons since the early 1970s or even into the late 1960s. The standing threat to everyone and anyone is that if Israel goes down, they are taking everyone in the Middle East with them in a sea of nuclear fire. That threat from Israel has never been retracted.

Now Israel is the victim if one or more of the nations that live under this Israeli threat tries to develop their own nuclear weapon. This is what nuclear proliferation is all about and now we're supposed to act shocked and outraged!

HockeyDad wrote:


Keeping it simple is for others. Answer as asked.
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HockeyDad
14 years ago

no.

Just as simple, do you think Iran is planning to decimate Israel?

frankj1 wrote:




No. It would be suicidal to their entire nation.

The thought of Iran being able to develop a nuclear weapon has Israel already panicking that the status quo they've enjoyed is coming to an end. Iran doesn't even need a bomb to keep up that pressure. If they did actually develop a bomb, the last thing they would do is attack Israel. Notice those crazy North Koreans haven't attacked anyone yet?

Mutually Assured Destruction.....just like India and Pakistan.



The important thing is to convince the American public that Iran will attack Israel if they have a nuclear weapon and then let their Christian prophecy minds fill in the blanks.
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HockeyDad
14 years ago

Answer as asked.

frankj1 wrote:





Jesus Christ, can you at least give me a second to type?
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frankj1
14 years ago

Jesus Christ, can you at least give me a second to type?

HockeyDad wrote:


excellent. sorry. I love this sh*t.
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frankj1
14 years ago

No. It would be suicidal to their entire nation.

The thought of Iran being able to develop a nuclear weapon has Israel already panicking that the status quo they've enjoyed is coming to an end. Iran doesn't even need a bomb to keep up that pressure. If they did actually develop a bomb, the last thing they would do is attack Israel. Notice those crazy North Koreans haven't attacked anyone yet?

Mutually Assured Destruction.....just like India and Pakistan.



The important thing is to convince the American public that Iran will attack Israel if they have a nuclear weapon and then let their Christian prophecy minds fill in the blanks.

HockeyDad wrote:


So, if you'll indulge me for a moment, IF Israel has a nuclear arsenal (as we strongly suspect but never has been admitted) then that possible fact alone has been paramount to their survival, to the very status quo you mention. Even if they do not actually possess the bomb, just the possibility has protected Israel...

And the world has clearly benefitted from this tentative "peace".

Then it follows that a militarily strong Israel has in fact been the major reason for the kooky way that part of the world has not blown itself up. The old "best defense is a strong offense" works according to you (I might agree). The very theory that went into the reason to develop the "Ultimate Peace Weapon" has proven to be, after 6 or 7 decades, correct?

Smart move for everyone to make that our policy.

I'm with you on that. But don't blame Israel (or me!) for the Republicans and their Christian prophesy working on the American consciousness. They do that by and for themselves...cuz obviously Israel only distributes the prequel, if you catch my drift.

Now the simple question...would you like to see Israel removed from the map? Not asking if you are an antisemite. Are you for removing Eretz Yisrael from this world?
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rfenst
14 years ago


Now the simple question...would you like to see Israel removed from the map? Not asking if you are an antisemite. Are you for removing Eretz Yisrael from this world?

frankj1 wrote:



The silence is deafening.
Of course he favors that- he's French!
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bloody spaniard
14 years ago

The silence is deafening.
Of course he favors that- he's French!

rfenst wrote:




Are the French supposed to be anti-semitic, or for that matter, is the rest of Europe?
Interesting question. Their politics, such as not allowing flyovers, appear to reflect that.
I have also read accounts where rabbis have trash tossed at them in the Ukraine but I thought these might be anecdotal.
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HockeyDad
14 years ago

The silence is deafening.
Of course he favors that- he's French!

rfenst wrote:




I swear to God.....I can't even take a break to sleep around you Jews when you're in attack mode!
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