Why don't we just dump suitcases full of cash from the air & cut out the middle guy in Iraq?!
OR set-up an all- volunteer brigade for Lazyboy recliner warriors who want to fight?

bloody spaniard wrote:

Of course. It's like saying you know what everyone in Florida thinks because you live there. (you live in fl right?)

You have an argument for perspective being a scientific calculation?

FuzzNJ wrote:

You don't need to deflect this off to a Florida discussion. It's going to be fun watching you run with the scientific calculation of an opinion poll means everything line! Opinion poll based leadership rocks as long as you agree.

HockeyDad wrote:

Fuzz, it could also be that they don't want their investment portfolio to take a hit when the Halliburtons & Lockheeds lose market share.
Me? I dunno. I think I'd rather firm up the porous borders have the kids return home instead. :-"

bloody spaniard wrote:

Fuzz, it could also be that they don't want their investment portfolio to take a hit when the Halliburtons & Lockheeds lose market share.
Me? I dunno. I think I'd rather firm up the porous borders have the kids return home instead. :-"

bloody spaniard wrote:

dude, you are too smart to actually believe what you are arguing over here. At least I thought so, please tell me that's the case and you are just attempting to bait me.

There is no deflection, it was something for comparison.

What method would you use to determine public opinion? Gut feeling?

FuzzNJ wrote:

I'm not arguing anything but opinion poll based governing hasn't always worked out so great and you're proposing that it is the only way. (I think that is how we got in Iraq in the first place and soon to be Iran.) It is good if you agree with the opinion poll.

HockeyDad wrote:

There is no risk to the Halliburton & Lockheed market share. Halliburton is a global oil services company and Lockheed always has Iran to look forward to soon! Time to refurbish and ramp up.
Don't hold your breath on firming up those borders!

HockeyDad wrote:

It's all moot anyway because the troops are just being shifted mostly to Kuwait. Plenty of money to be made from housing, transportation, laundry, cafeteria, and basic staples there as well.
Can't argue with you on the border issue though.

bloody spaniard wrote:

What is a 'good percentage' and where did you get this information that lead to your conclusion? Every opinion poll I've seen on the matter shows the exact opposite with the exception of the Kurds in the north. We're responsible for hundreds of thousands deaths in Iraq so it's not a surprise they wouldn't want us there. This 'joy' you speak of sounds like the propaganda used to sell the war: They'll great us with flowers, etc.

FuzzNJ wrote:

See, that's your problem. You sit and read everyone else's opinion and only post those with whom you agree. You cannot form an opinion on your own and have no life experiences to base anything on (other than cookies and social welfare).

I won't be baited by your ignorance and need to produce polls generated by the organizations that support your opinion. And, if I did produce these polls, you would find a way to discredit them because of the source. Every poll by ANY other poster on this board has been discredited by you in one form or another. You have no desire now, or ever, to believe anything other than what you want to believe. You are the opitome of the sheeple of the liberal party. You even find a way to glorify Obama's dismal failures (they are not as bad as Bush's, etc).

Merry Christmas to you. I hope the New Year brings you some humility and enlightenment. Make a vow to experience life and leave the internet and polls for a few days.

chiefburg wrote:

What is a 'good percentage' and where did you get this information that lead to your conclusion? Every opinion poll I've seen on the matter shows the exact opposite with the exception of the Kurds in the north. We're responsible for hundreds of thousands deaths in Iraq so it's not a surprise they wouldn't want us there. This 'joy' you speak of sounds like the propaganda used to sell the war: They'll great us with flowers, etc.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Hundreds of thousands? I believe you are a little off... 100,000-115,000 IIR...

Wait, here it is...

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ 

Sheesh Fuzz.... Do a little research before spouting "facts" would ya????

elk hunter wrote:

Don't forget John Kerry (who served in Vietnam) said we broke into homes and raped women and terrorized children too........

ZRX1200 wrote:

I have done research. That's one count, and a good one, but it says 'documented civilian deaths from violence'. That's violence only and just documented violence, not deaths as a result of sanctions over the last 20 years, sickness because of lack of medicine, stuff like that. When taking deaths that happened in Iraq as a result of our actions it is much higher. Those estimates are as high as 600k+, but I'm not certain about those numbers because they sound really high and hope they aren't correct.

FuzzNJ wrote: