I am not a fan of the man (damn Kenyan Muslin) or his policies but he gave a decent speech.

I REALLY liked the Republican response. My first question was who is this guy and why isn't her running for President.

MikeyRavioli wrote:

Well, not judging the content or the accuracy, I think if we saw more of that attitude the last three years his approval rating would be higher.

MikeyRavioli wrote:

Kind of surprised by that. I agree. He made too many compromises when the republicans were and are not compromising and should be tougher and stand up for his principles, or at least Democratic principles. He doesn't have many of those anymore.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Btw, Fuzz, it was 50 billion per YEAR that was supposed to have been paid by Iraqui oil revenues for the war effort.

bloody spaniard wrote:

I think the days of extreme left or extreme right are over. The majority of the populous sits closer to the middle these days and the line between Democrat and Republican are getting blurrier every day. The election may come down to who the voting public likes better: an economic populist or a social populist regardless of party.

MikeyRavioli wrote:

The majority of the population has ALWAYS been in the middle. It's the political class, political entertainment tv and radio and the small band of extremists on both sides that are fighting. Obama is trying to be in the middle, all things to all people, and with extremists yelling the loudest he looks weak by not fighting back harder.

The vast majority of the electorate don't even understand all the issues, they can't, people are too busy surviving. I have a lot of time, and I'm lucky, to read and listen. Most people don't and quite a few just listen to someone they trust to tell them what to do anyway, a relative, preacher, media personality or single issue voters.

The entire discussion of who is being a populist, who is smart or stupid for a certain political move etc, is discussion about process, not policy. It treats the election as a sporting event instead of discussing the policies that would be best for the nation because they want viewers to make more money so they've dumbed it down to the detriment of the country.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Second part correct, first part not.

FuzzNJ wrote:

I remember dubya saying that on tv- 50 Billion per year from oil revenues. War would pay for itself year after year (this part I ad-libbed but that's what I think he meant).


At this point, I don't care about a politician's public presentation. He could stammer & choke like that George VI (?) character with marbles in his mouth if it means that I'll see an increase in my paycheck and more harmony around me. Right now I see just another smooth politician and decades of gradual deterioration.

To hell with speeches.
But wait, let's analyze his body language & gestures while we're at it. Ooooooohhhhh, won't that be fun! 😮

bloody spaniard wrote:

And where they get those fabulous suits and haircuts!!!!](*,)

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Thats actually why I am supporting Romney. He has the best hair of all candidates. Even in a non-political sense the man has great hair.

MikeyRavioli wrote:

Thats actually why I am supporting Romney. He has the best hair of all candidates. Even in a non-political sense the man has great hair.

MikeyRavioli wrote:

Can America afford a Massachusetts moderate?
(I got that as a voice mail yesterday)

HockeyDad wrote: