jetblasted
14 years ago
Sandra Fluke is being sold by the left as something she's not. Namely a random co-ed from Georgetown law who found herself mixed up in the latest front of the culture war who was simply looking to make sure needy women had access to birth control. That, of course, is not the case.

As many have already uncovered Sandra Fluke she is, in reality, a 30 year old long time liberal activist who enrolled at Georgetown with the express purpose of fighting for the school to pay for students' birth control. She has been pushing for mandated coverage of contraceptives at Georgetown for at least three years according to the Washington Post.

However, as I discovered today, birth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if "gender reassignment" surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.

The title of the article, is Employment Discrimination Against LGBTQ Persons and was published in the Journal's 2011 Annual Review. I have posted a transcript of the section I will be quoting from here. In a subsection of the article entitled "Employment Discrimination in Provision of Employment Benefits" starting on page 635 of the review Sandra Fluke and her co-editor describe two forms of discrimination in benefits they believe LGBTQ individuals face in the work place:

"Discrimination typically takes two forms: first, direct discrimination limiting access to benefits specifically needed by LGBTQ persons, and secondly, the unavailability of family-related benefits to LGBTQ families."

Their "prime example" of the first form of discrimination? Not covering sex change operations:

"A prime example of direct discrimination is denying insurance coverage for medical needs of transgender persons physically transitioning to the other gender."

This so called "prime example" of discrimination is expounded on in a subsection titled "Gender Reassignment Medical Services" starting on page 636:

"Transgender persons wishing to undergo the gender reassignment process frequently face heterosexist employer health insurance policies that label the surgery as cosmetic or medically unnecessary and therefore uncovered."

To be clear, the argument here is that employers are engaging in discrimination against their employees who want them to pay for their sex changes because their "heterosexist" health insurance policies don't believe sex changes are medically necessary.

Additionally Sandra Fluke and her co-editor have an answer for why exactly these "heterosexist" insurance policies, and the courts that side with them, deem sex changes as medically unnecessary:

"In Mario v. P & C Food Markets, Inc., an employee who was denied such coverage brought claims under the federal Employee Retirement Income Security (ERISA) and Title VII. The court rejected the ERISA claim, finding the plaintiff's mastectomy and hormone therapy were not medically necessary. The court's ruling was based upon controversy within the medical community regarding that treatment plan. Much of that controversy has been linked to ignorance and bias against transgender persons, and the American Medical Association has declared the lack of coverage to be discrimination."

You see, all opposition to the determination that sex changes are medically necessary, and therefor must be covered by private employer provided health insurance, is based on "ignorance and bias against transgender persons".

The section on discrimination against those seeking gender reassignment ends with Sandra Fluke and her co-editor wondering why more lawsuits aren't filed against private employers on these grounds. Especially in comparison to the frequency with which these types of cases are filed against Medicare, Medicaid, and even the prison system:

"The reason for this lack of cases is unclear. Private employee insurance plans do not more frequently cover this need, so it may be a sign that transgender employees do not see the courts as likely to provide any assistance against private employers."

The argument made in this article edited by Sandra Fluke and Karen Hu is quite clear. "Gender reassignment" is a medically necessary set of procedures that must be covered under employee provided health insurance policies. If it is not covered by those policies that is tantamount to discrimination and legal action should be taken against the employer.

So, as you can see, Sandra Fluke is not what she is being sold as. Instead she is a liberal activist pushing some rather radical ideas. Keep that in mind as the left holds her up in the spotlight.

http://mrctv.org/blog/sandra-fluke-gender-reassignment-and-health-insurance 

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wheelrite
14 years ago
she's a promiscuos lefty whore...
Rclay
14 years ago
I was waiting for this one. I am surprised it took so long.

passing yourself off as 23 when you're actually 30 is creepy. It just speaks to the dishonestly of the tactics. I am surprised Limbaugh took the bait.

She'll have no chance at slander claims. She made herself a public figure.
RICKAMAVEN
14 years ago
Rclay

WHY WOULDN'T RUSH TAKE ANY BAIT OFFERED.HE IS A NASTY SOB TO START WITH, MARRIED 3 OR 4 TIMES
ALL TO WOMEN HE MEETS OR MET IN CHAT ROOMS.

WHAT KIND OF BRAIN DOES ONE NEED TO DOCTOR SHOP FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND HUNT FOR
WOMEN WHO NEED CHAT ROOMS TO MEET MEN.

ANYONE THAT LISTENS TO HIM FOR ADVICE OR WISDOM NEEDS A LONGER TAIL ON HIS KITE.
Rclay
14 years ago
What's a chat room?

I thought the prescription issue was part of the secret Bohemian Grove initiation.
rfenst
14 years ago

I was waiting for this one. I am surprised it took so long.

passing yourself off as 23 when you're actually 30 is creepy. It just speaks to the dishonestly of the tactics. I am surprised Limbaugh took the bait.

She'll have no chance at slander claims. She made herself a public figure.

Rclay wrote:




Wait a minute.

"Limbaugh took the bait"? She set him up? There was a hidden plan to push him way over the line and to induce him to call her a "slut" and a "prostitute" who is "having so much sex she's going broke"? Give me a f'n break.

On top of that, her being a "public figure" in certain matters does provide Limbaugh with a defense here for the words he used. He was entitled to say she is dead wrong and to disagree with her publicly. He can promote others to or himself debunk her opinions and testimony, but that is about all he is entitled to do.

Limbaugh's slander of her is probably the absolute worst thing a male could publicly say about a publicly known female. His only defense to what he said here is that it is true. I wish him luck proving it- without digging himself even deeper into his own grave.

Limbaugh is going to have to pay a hell of a lot of money to avoid this from going to trial should she sue him. I can see a reasonable jury awarding her and penalizing him millions and millions of dollars in a trial that would last all of a few hours..

ZRX1200
14 years ago
She is the one who made the too much sex comment.
Rclay
14 years ago
You're right., but then there is your employer Media Matters that trolls conservative radio and websites looking for opportunities like that.

Your offense at something that doesn't involve you is weird. Blog practice? Besides its not the worse word. I think we all know women hate c€%t the worst. With today's debased society (jersey shore, etc.) slut has little value.

She made herself a public figure and any lawyer is
Going to have an easy time with the discovery process with that woman. She was seeking the spotlight to demand freebies. Ed Schultz comments about Laura Ingram ring a bell? Most of the leftist blogs say much worse.

Whistlebritches
14 years ago

She is the one who made the too much sex comment.

ZRX1200 wrote:





Damn right.......she's obviously a fuqqing whore..................Anybody got pics of her???LOL


Ron
rfenst
14 years ago

You're right., but then there is your employer Media Matters that trolls conservative radio and websites looking for opportunities like that.

Your offense at something that doesn't involve you is weird. Blog practice? Besides its not the worse word. I think we all know women hate c€%t the worst. With today's debased society (jersey shore, etc.) slut has little value.

She made herself a public figure and any lawyer is
Going to have an easy time with the discovery process with that woman. She was seeking the spotlight to demand freebies. Ed Schultz comments about Laura Ingram ring a bell? Most of the leftist blogs say much worse.

Rclay wrote:




WTF are you talking about?
Please tell us you are just drunk.
wheelrite
14 years ago

WTF are you talking about?
Please tell us you are just drunk.

rfenst wrote:



Lefty Broads are lousy lays..

The funny thing,
This whore is prolly a Rug Biter that doesn't need contraception,,,
jackconrad
14 years ago
If you don't wanna get bit, don't screw with the Big Dogs. Oh MY GOSH somebody called me a Bad Name! I cannot stand the pain!"


This is the Bull**** that destroys any Organization or Nation.


3000 bucks a year for pills that cost 150 ! That's a flat out Lie !
I am Offended and i cant get up!


Will we continue to be stupid enough to pay attention to this crap and t5have the Government pay the cost to let this crap come to trial !

What about the greedy companies trying to look Holier than Now by withdrawing ads over theses remarks. They couln'd't actually give a sheet unless it got them free Publicity.

This Country is screwed up when we waste precious time and energy on this crap while the 3rd World is plotting our demise.

We have become a Nation Fools who let a Legal Spirit become a weapon used to contrive a Blockade to Day to Day Functionality and The Media to be the PuppetMasters of a Society of Indecisive Milksops..

Rclay
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Wait a minute.

"Limbaugh took the bait"? She set him up? There was a hidden plan to push him way over the line and to induce him to call her a "slut" and a "prostitute" who is "having so much sex she's going broke"? Give me a f'n break.

On top of that, her being a "public figure" in certain matters does provide Limbaugh with a defense here for the words he used. He was entitled to say she is dead wrong and to disagree with her publicly. He can promote others to or himself debunk her opinions and testimony, but that is about all he is entitled to do.

Limbaugh's slander of her is probably the absolute worst thing a male could publicly say about a publicly known female. His only defense to what he said here is that it is true. I wish him luck proving it- without digging himself even deeper into his own grave.

Limbaugh is going to have to pay a hell of a lot of money to avoid this from going to trial should she sue him. I can see a reasonable jury awarding her and penalizing him millions and millions of dollars in a trial that would last all of a few hours..

rfenst wrote:




BAWHAHAHAHAA!!!

Free Speech sucks!

Yeah, I see it now...didn't before. Rick has said worse here about Palin!!!!

Anyone is entitled..yes entitled by their maker...to say anything they want in this country. It's what separates us and the muslims!

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/05/the-lefts-respect-for-women-a-look-back/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed 
snowwolf777
14 years ago

Wait a minute.

"Limbaugh took the bait"? She set him up? There was a hidden plan to push him way over the line and to induce him to call her a "slut" and a "prostitute" who is "having so much sex she's going broke"? Give me a f'n break.

On top of that, her being a "public figure" in certain matters does provide Limbaugh with a defense here for the words he used. He was entitled to say she is dead wrong and to disagree with her publicly. He can promote others to or himself debunk her opinions and testimony, but that is about all he is entitled to do.

Limbaugh's slander of her is probably the absolute worst thing a male could publicly say about a publicly known female. His only defense to what he said here is that it is true. I wish him luck proving it- without digging himself even deeper into his own grave.

Limbaugh is going to have to pay a hell of a lot of money to avoid this from going to trial should she sue him. I can see a reasonable jury awarding her and penalizing him millions and millions of dollars in a trial that would last all of a few hours..

rfenst wrote:




I don't argue much with lawyers, but I will opine. I doubt she'll sue (unless that celebrity attention whore from the left coast talks her into it for some more face time on TMZ). The only reason she would sue would be to start shopping her resume to DC area law firms.

She's no kid who got bushwhacked. She's a 30-year-old liberal feminist going to one of the most expensive law schools in the country, whining because she thinks the someone else should pay for her rubbers. While the "morally outraged media" is all a-flutter over Limbaugh (same media that giggles when Bill Mahr calls Sarah Palin a "tw*t and a "cu*t"), most folks are still in tune with the real issue here, which is: "What a set of balls on this woman to demand her birth control be paid for by someone else!" Since when is birth control a pre-req to graduate from college? If so, why stop at that? Starbucks is damn expensive, too. So is pizza, beer, and Spring Break. She didn't have to go to Georgetown. Go to SUNY or the local CC.

And as for the Dems and their little show trial they put on, really? This is your cause celeb in an election year? Not free drugs for AIDs paitents? Not free drugs for diabetic senior citizens? No, it's free birth control for some snotty college girl who wants to bang like a porn star but "can't afford it." Boo-f'n-hoo.

😞
snowwolf777
14 years ago
Oh, and yes, I think Rush stepped in it. Both feet. And tracked it into his mansion. Thought that soon as I heard the comment.

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Rclay
14 years ago

Oh, and yes, I think Rush stepped in it. Both feet. And tracked it into his mansion. Thought that soon as I heard the comment.

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snowwolf777 wrote:



Agreed, Stepped in it is better phrasing.
snowwolf777
14 years ago
And I think this a great little project for the Dems to blow smoke all over the place to cloud up those other minor election year issues like the *****ty economy, poor job market, sky-high gas prices, Iran, etc.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

And I think this a great little project for the Dems to blow smoke all over the place to cloud up those other minor election year issues like the *****ty economy, poor job market, sky-high gas prices, Iran, etc.

snowwolf777 wrote:




Of course! Let's make an op-ed radio talkshow host the equal to a GOP frontrunner for the POTUS and fire the ovens!

You don't have to agree with what he says. He does have a right to say whatever he wants. No matter how stupid or outlandish. Did he have his "brain power" restrained?
snowwolf777
14 years ago

Of course! Let's make an op-ed radio talkshow host the equal to a GOP frontrunner for the POTUS and fire the ovens!

You don't have to agree with what he says. He does have a right to say whatever he wants. No matter how stupid or outlandish. Did he have his "brain power" restrained?

DrMaddVibe wrote:




They tried Air America, but the 4 listeners didn't support the 2 sponsors enough, so that tanked. Failing that, they must now silence the opposition. Still waiting for the "Anti-Talk Radio Hate Speech" proposal to hit the floor in Congress.

We can all rally around "Sandy's Law!"

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