Poll Question: Are You Better Off Now than 4 Years Ago?
dpnewell
13 years ago

I don't get it. I'm better off now than I was 4 years ago. This really has very little impact from the president.

My client company has more work for me than I'll be able to accomplish, I've managed to get out from under all my credit card debt I'd acquired from dating a high-maintenance girl on a biotech-startup salary. My condo has likely regained some of the value it had lost back when I'd initially considered putting it on the market, enough that I'll likely make a 75% profit off the sale.

I've got a job, it pays well, it will likely continue paying for a long time.
I constantly get offers for additional work in the area with different companies.
I'm not carrying any operating debt, and will likely have eliminated all debt in my life within the next few months.

I don't understand how so many people can be claiming to be worse off.

victor809 wrote:



I own and operate a small (2 employee) awning & canopy company. I've been in business for over 30 years. Before Obama, I've had maybe 3 down years, which where always followed by a stellar year that more then made up for it.

Although awnings, canopies, patio rooms, carports, etc., are nice to have on your home, they are not necessities. The bottom fell out of my industry right after the ‘08 elections, and the entire industry has stayed flat ever since. No one has ever seen it so bad. Folks are afraid to spend money, and I attribute that directly to Obama’s failed policies. My closing rate used to be in the 80% to 90% range. Now I’m lucky to close 20%, and I’m not losing jobs to competitors. It’s because folks decide they’re not doing the work “right now”, due to the economy. You have no idea how many times I’ve heard “we’re going with you, but, we’re going to hold off right now. Maybe next year, or the year after.”

Folks who’s businesses and/or jobs rely on the general public are the ones taking the hit. Government jobs, or companies that rely on government are doing just fine (for now). Guess I should have closed down back in ‘08 and gotten under Obama’s cone of protection (i.e. gone to work for the government, GM or Wall Street).
HockeyDad
13 years ago

Guess I should have closed down back in ‘08 and gotten under Obama’s cone of protection (i.e. gone to work for the government, GM or Wall Street).

dpnewell wrote:




Nooooow you figure it out!
victor809
13 years ago

I own and operate a small (2 employee) awning & canopy company. I've been in business for over 30 years. Before Obama, I've had maybe 3 down years, which where always followed by a stellar year that more then made up for it.

Although awnings, canopies, patio rooms, carports, etc., are nice to have on your home, they are not necessities. The bottom fell out of my industry right after the ‘08 elections, and the entire industry has stayed flat ever since. No one has ever seen it so bad. Folks are afraid to spend money, and I attribute that directly to Obama’s failed policies. My closing rate used to be in the 80% to 90% range. Now I’m lucky to close 20%, and I’m not losing jobs to competitors. It’s because folks decide they’re not doing the work “right now”, due to the economy. You have no idea how many times I’ve heard “we’re going with you, but, we’re going to hold off right now. Maybe next year, or the year after.”

Folks who’s businesses and/or jobs rely on the general public are the ones taking the hit. Government jobs, or companies that rely on government are doing just fine (for now). Guess I should have closed down back in ‘08 and gotten under Obama’s cone of protection (i.e. gone to work for the government, GM or Wall Street).

dpnewell wrote:




Ever think it could have to do with the housing market?
I could think of a number of trends that would impact awning companies which have nothing to do with the president....

The new housing construction has been abysmal for a while (way back to bush), fewer new houses means fewer houses that may potentially need awnings.

Current construction sales is just barely starting to make a come-back. Again, change of ownership would be a factor in driving upgrades like that.

There's a trend towards city living, away from suburbs. More people buy condos, that lowers the percentage of population in need of awnings.

Anyway, it's your business. My point is just that additional factors, completely disassociated with the president will impact it. Just like I don't give any credit to the pres for my good fortune, I don't see a reason to think that he's the main reason people aren't buying awnings.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

Ever think it could have to do with the housing market?
I could think of a number of trends that would impact awning companies which have nothing to do with the president....

The new housing construction has been abysmal for a while (way back to bush), fewer new houses means fewer houses that may potentially need awnings.

Current construction sales is just barely starting to make a come-back. Again, change of ownership would be a factor in driving upgrades like that.

There's a trend towards city living, away from suburbs. More people buy condos, that lowers the percentage of population in need of awnings.

Anyway, it's your business. My point is just that additional factors, completely disassociated with the president will impact it. Just like I don't give any credit to the pres for my good fortune, I don't see a reason to think that he's the main reason people aren't buying awnings.

victor809 wrote:




:-k


wonder what caused that crash?
DrafterX
13 years ago
I heard Obama hates awnings.... 😟
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Congrats, Victor. You, TW, and Drafter appear to be among the few relatively unscathed. My condolences to my fellow entrepreneur however- the awning guy. Hang tough & perhaps expand into ancillary services/products. As Victor said, the housing market is making a feeble comeback. There's hope.

Same thing is happening in my area of expertise- mktg/promo budgets were slashed by both Government and private industry. That's why if all goes well, I'll be starting a second business (and possibly a third) related to healthcare. Unlike Government/foundation research grants and other freebies, there'll (unfortunately) never be a shortage of developmentally challenged folks...
DrafterX
13 years ago

My condolences to my fellow entrepreneur however- the awning guy. Hang tough & perhaps expand ...

bloody spaniard wrote:




😟


:-k
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

😟
:-k

DrafterX wrote:



(see below)

I own and operate a small (2 employee) awning & canopy company. I've been in business for over 30 years. Before Obama, I've had maybe 3 down years, which where always followed by a stellar year that more then made up for it.

Although awnings, canopies, patio rooms, carports, etc., are nice to have on your home, they are not necessities. The bottom fell out of my industry right after the ‘08 elections, and the entire industry has stayed flat ever since. No one has ever seen it so bad. Folks are afraid to spend money, and I attribute that directly to Obama’s failed policies. My closing rate used to be in the 80% to 90% range. Now I’m lucky to close 20%, and I’m not losing jobs to competitors. It’s because folks decide they’re not doing the work “right now”, due to the economy. You have no idea how many times I’ve heard “we’re going with you, but, we’re going to hold off right now. Maybe next year, or the year after.”

Folks who’s businesses and/or jobs rely on the general public are the ones taking the hit. Government jobs, or companies that rely on government are doing just fine (for now). Guess I should have closed down back in ‘08 and gotten under Obama’s cone of protection (i.e. gone to work for the government, GM or Wall Street).

dpnewell wrote:





Oh, and dpnewell, companies that "rely" on Government jobs are not doing well at all- ever hear of Sequestration? There's been no money allotted to budgets for some time. Unfortunately, this has the oft- repeated trickle down effect but with negative results for vendors/suppliers and their distributors.
DrafterX
13 years ago
thought yoou may have planted a joke in there.... 😟

you 'hang' awnings....
Awnings 'expand'...

over your own head I guess... 🤣
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
LOL!@ hang tough & expand...](*,) True- good one, Drafter. Guess I shuttered it out.
Mathen
13 years ago

ever hear of Sequestration? There's been no money allotted to budgets for some time. .

bloody spaniard wrote:



If sequestration happens, Arlington, Alexandria and Fairfax counties in Northern Virginia will become Appalachia poor in about 60 days. They're predicting a quarter of a million jobs lost here. Mine will be one of them.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

If sequestration happens, Arlington, Alexandria and Fairfax counties in Northern Virginia will become Appalachia poor in about 60 days. They're predicting a quarter of a million jobs lost here. Mine will be one of them.

Mathen wrote:




Sounds like we need massive tax increases to keep the government sector the largest part of the US economy.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
I just got goose bumps & chills.
That change is already taking place, Mathen. It's just verrrrrrry subtle. Budgets will be passed but the monies allotted will be sparse. I hope I'm wrong.
DadZilla3
13 years ago
So far I've been pretty fortunate. I'd gotten a raise that more or less kept me even with inflation - but no more than that.

But best of all my ex stopped talking to me completely.

Win-win. 👍
RICKAMAVEN
13 years ago
chemyst

AND IF ROMNEY GETS ELECTED, NEVER MIND HE WON'T GET 200 ELECTROL VOTES.
PRESIDENT OBAMA REELECTED Y 10:PM CALIORNIA TIME.

THE REAL QUESTION IS HAS ROMNEY EVER RECEIVED A FORGIVNESS FROM THE IRS
FOR HIS ADMITTED (TO THE IRS) FRAUDULENT TAX RETURN. MAYBE PRESIDENT OBAMA
WILL ASK HIM PERSONALLY DURING THE3 DEBATE.

MAYBE THE JOBS BILLS TO REPAIR OUR INFERSTRUCTER WILL FORCE THE REPUBLICANS
TOALLOW THESE MANY BILLS TO COME TO A VOTE. ASSUMING THEIR IS A REPUBLICAN
AND OR A TEA.PARTY LEFT
victor809
13 years ago


But best of all my ex stopped talking to me completely.

Win-win. 👍

DadZilla3 wrote:



You definitely can thank Obama for that.

I hear he keeps her really busy.... 🙂
OldSchool
13 years ago
If it is not Romney on 11/2, depression begins 11/3. Pack your bags and hit the storm cellar it going to be a bumpy ride...
pdxstogieman
13 years ago

I don't get it. I'm better off now than I was 4 years ago. This really has very little impact from the president.

My client company has more work for me than I'll be able to accomplish, I've managed to get out from under all my credit card debt I'd acquired from dating a high-maintenance girl on a biotech-startup salary. My condo has likely regained some of the value it had lost back when I'd initially considered putting it on the market, enough that I'll likely make a 75% profit off the sale.

I've got a job, it pays well, it will likely continue paying for a long time.
I constantly get offers for additional work in the area with different companies.
I'm not carrying any operating debt, and will likely have eliminated all debt in my life within the next few months.

I don't understand how so many people can be claiming to be worse off.

victor809 wrote:



Maybe Thurston Howell III bought out their company, downsized and outsourced it.
pdxstogieman
13 years ago

Sounds like we need massive tax increases to keep the government sector the largest part of the US economy.

HockeyDad wrote:



Wait, I thought that's what everyone here was waving their pitchforks and torches against. Big Government is bad I guess unless you make a living from it making pitchforks and torches.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

Wait, I thought that's what everyone here was waving their pitchforks and torches against. Big Government is bad I guess unless you make a living from it making pitchforks and torches.

pdxstogieman wrote:





It's funny how Cones of Protection work!
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