tailgater
13 years ago
New Jersey town to Ala. volunteer utility crew: Don’t help with Sandy unless you’re unionized

Posted By David Martosko On 12:35 AM 11/02/2012 @ 12:35 AM In DC Exclusives,DC Exclusives - Blurb,Featured,US,Yahoo! Linkbox,Yahoo! News | No Comments


Utility crews from several states East of the Mississippi River hit the road this week to volunteer their time and talents in Northeastern states hit hard by Hurricane Sandy. But crews from Alabama got the shock of their lives when other workers in a coastal New Jersey town told them they couldn’t lend a hand without a union card.

Derrick Moore, who works for Decatur Utilities in Decatur, Ala., told WAFF-TV in Huntsville that crews in Seaside Heights, N.J. turned him and his crewmates away, saying they couldn’t do any work there because they’re not union employees.

As a result, crews from Decatur and Huntsville left the Jersey shore and headed to Long Island to pitch in.

WAFF’s Mark Thornton reported that Moore and his coworkers “are frustrated being told, in essence, ‘thanks, but no thanks.’”

Another nonunion Decatur Utilities crew is idling in Roanoke, Va., waiting for instructions from Seaside Heights. The town asked them days ago for help, but later told the workers to stand down.

A rejected crew from the Joe Wheeler Electric Membership Co-op in Trinity, Ala. has already turned around and headed back to Dixie.

Electric repair work for public utilities in New Jersey is dominated by the International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers, a unit of the politically powerful AFL-CIO.

Many parts of coastal New Jersey are projected to be without electric power for at least seven to 10 more days.
Stinkdyr
13 years ago
And this folks, is a large part of what is wrong with America today.

Enjoy your socialism!

🍺
dpnewell
13 years ago
Protection of the Unions is far more important then the poor folks without power, food and heat.
blackfoot11
13 years ago
but the thugs at the top prolly have the lights on........................
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

Wow. Unions created the middle class. The group that fund America, I believe. Unions were created to fight tyranny from the Rockefellers, Carnegies, and Morgan's that ruled the country, and enforced they're employment policies with the guns and clubs of private armies.
We could always go back to that, and are well on our way, with the likes of right to work policies, and union bashing to get these laws passed.
If you want to harp on the Hoffas, and uaw as your example, fine. When your kids are being taught by min wage teachers, your car being built by Chinese children, and your home built by kids dropped out of school to help support their families, the term crashing down around you will have new meaning to you.


I, we, you, will not be in the ruling class. Your businesses will be taken over, run out of business. Bought out, or forced out by the new batch of egomaniacs intent on ruling the country. Then we can stand together at the food line and reminisce about the good old days when unions at least could a person a job making a "living wage".

Unions are the golden goose.

sd72 wrote:


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DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

Wow. Unions created the middle class. The group that fund America, I believe. Unions were created to fight tyranny from the Rockefellers, Carnegies, and Morgan's that ruled the country, and enforced they're employment policies with the guns and clubs of private armies.
We could always go back to that, and are well on our way, with the likes of right to work policies, and union bashing to get these laws passed.
If you want to harp on the Hoffas, and uaw as your example, fine. When your kids are being taught by min wage teachers, your car being built by Chinese children, and your home built by kids dropped out of school to help support their families, the term crashing down around you will have new meaning to you.


I, we, you, will not be in the ruling class. Your businesses will be taken over, run out of business. Bought out, or forced out by the new batch of egomaniacs intent on ruling the country. Then we can stand together at the food line and reminisce about the good old days when unions at least could a person a job making a "living wage".

Unions are the golden goose.

sd72 wrote:


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tailgater
13 years ago

It's not the average union employee that is the problem. It's the "union mentality" that eventually takes over too many who boldly state that they NEED the union. Those are the twerps who flex their union muscle to compensate for their lack of ability.
The union brass who made the call to turn back qualified electric crews should be fired or worse.
Their names should be posted in the local papers so when the family without heat has to go an extra week, they'll know who to blame.

The concept of the union is a good one. One that was necessary for generations of Americans.
But like Obamas bayonets, their time has come. They have officially become a characature of themselves, replacing beaurocratic red tape and attrocitites for common sense in dire times.



tj2001cobra
13 years ago
Same story, different source....I like how it references Obama's quote of "no red tape".



‘No Red Tape’? New Jersey Turns Away Non-union Relief Crews

Posted on November 2, 2012

How desperate is hurricane-ravaged New Jersey? Not desperate enough to suspend a union monopoly that keeps the state in the bottom ten states for economic competitiveness (and #48 for business friendliness). Relief crews from Alabama who were specifically called to New Jersey found themselves diverted to Long Island, NY after they arrived because they use non-union labor. Alabama is a right-to-work state.

WAFF-TV of Hunstville, AL reports:

Crews from Huntsville, as well as Decatur Utilities and Joe Wheeler out of Trinity headed up there this week, but Derrick Moore, one of the Decatur workers, said they were told by crews in New Jersey that they can’t do any work there since they’re not union employees….

Understandably, Moore said they’re frustrated being told “thanks, but no thanks.”

With so much at stake–and lives still in danger–it would seem logical to tell special interests to step aside.

On Wednesday, while visiting cleanup efforts in New Jersey in the company of Gov. Chris Christie, President Barack Obama vowed: “We are not going to tolerate red tape, we are not going to tolerate bureaucracy.”


rfenst
13 years ago
Very stupid move to turn down help in such a tragic disaster. I feel bad for the citizens that would have benefited. There have to be plenty of other cities run by politicians who will stand up and speak out. I'd love to see union bosses interviewed on TV on this one. Can't imagine what they could possibly think of saying.
tailgater
13 years ago
Union members in New Jersey and beyond should use this travesty as a reason to look in the mirror and recognize the multitude of less obvious offenses that occur every day in the name of "union rules".

HockeyDad
13 years ago

Very stupid move to turn down help in such a tragic disaster. I feel bad for the citizens that would have benefited. There have to be plenty of other cities run by politicians who will stand up and speak out. I'd love to see union bosses interviewed on TV on this one. Can't imagine what they could possibly think of saying.

rfenst wrote:




Union bosses are hard to come by and we shouldn't just remove them for their politics.
RWhisenand
13 years ago
We're the no-union workers offered to organize? If they wanted to help, and the locals could use the help seams logical.
ZRX1200
13 years ago
They spend years honing their skills waiting for an opportunity. Only the cream rises to the top.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

We're the no-union workers offered to organize? If they wanted to help, and the locals could use the help seams logical.

RWhisenand wrote:




If they organized into a union, they would have to immediately go on break.
DadZilla3
13 years ago

If they organized into a union, they would have to immediately go on break.

HockeyDad wrote:


Or on strike.
sd72
13 years ago
DMV

Nice play.

What I make is middle middle class, plus health insurance, and a collapsing pension. No dental, no eye care.

I'm not crying, I have a job.

My point if view, on unions, comes from the fact that a nonunion employee, doing the same thing makes a little more than half of what I make, no benefits included. The cost of buying those benefits would almost equal their pay.

I guess the countless food drives, toys for tots, donated labor and material to fix shelters, and habitat for humanity hours donated are never getting into the union bashing threads.

Have a good night,

Steve
Detroit Carpenters local 687
ZRX1200
13 years ago
How much are you worth?

Who can do your job?

Who should decide that..........
borndead1
13 years ago

DMV

Nice play.

What I make is middle middle class, plus health insurance, and a collapsing pension. No dental, no eye care.

I'm not crying, I have a job.

My point if view, on unions, comes from the fact that a nonunion employee, doing the same thing makes a little more than half of what I make, no benefits included. The cost of buying those benefits would almost equal their pay.

I guess the countless food drives, toys for tots, donated labor and material to fix shelters, and habitat for humanity hours donated are never getting into the union bashing threads.

Have a good night,

Steve
Detroit Carpenters local 687

sd72 wrote:




I work for a non-union company. I get a decent wage, 3 weeks paid vacation, $5200/yr allowance for continuing education, and I pay zero (yes, zero) dollars out of my paycheck for health, dental, vision insurance.

My stepdad has been a union worker at a Welch's plant for 15 years. He makes $4/hr less than I do, gets 2 weeks vacation, pays out the azz for his insurance, and can be forced to work 16 hrs a day during grape season. Unions are NOT what they used to be.
sd72
13 years ago
I guess your situation and locale are different than mine.

I don't march in union parades, and shout from rooftops " go union ". It's fair to say, after 40 years on this planet, owning a construction company (non union), and working for a union company, I found what works for me. Where I'm at, I work my 40-60 hours, and get time with my family in a better proportion than anything else I've tried.

Everyone should do what works for them, and not bash the other.
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