At Dr. Mad:

Oh how do I get started...shesh...I won't bother...you are truly hopeless. Okay, I will say this though. If you want Holland's roads, you have to pay Holland's taxes (and maybe smoke a little weed too). Oxford, while cool, is only one university and I'd stack our Ivy League up against it any day. I think we have eight and at least one of them has a pretty good football team (BEAT THE DUCKS!). Other countries can try to challenge our currency's status, but during every economic downturn...everybody BUYS AMERICAN BABY!!!

Cheer up dude, or buy a bomb shelter...either way, I'm done arguing with you!

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SMGBobbyScott wrote:

How will that bill look and be paid under Obamacare?

HockeyDad wrote:

Well, under ObamaCare (as I understand it at least...some of the regs still haven't been written)...the bill will look similar to mine...at least for 95% of Americans. That will save a ton of money for many and save the credit ratings of a ton of others. Needless to say the hospitals will lose a cash cow...I won't shed a tear.

SMGBobbyScott wrote:

95% the same, 5% win, and hospitals take a beating... Sounds like hospitaling is about to become a bad business. Weird thing is I thought hospitals and doctors were for Obamacare.

Maybe somebody got a double dose of "hope"!

HockeyDad wrote:

95% the same, 5% win, and hospitals take a beating... Sounds like hospitaling is about to become a bad business. Weird thing is I thought hospitals and doctors were for Obamacare.

Maybe somebody got a double dose of "hope"!

HockeyDad wrote:

95% the same, 5% win, and hospitals take a beating... Sounds like hospitaling is about to become a bad business. Weird thing is I thought hospitals and doctors were for Obamacare.

Maybe somebody got a double dose of "hope"!

HockeyDad wrote:

Well, under ObamaCare (as I understand it at least...some of the regs still haven't been written)...the bill will look similar to mine...at least for 95% of Americans. That will save a ton of money for many and save the credit ratings of a ton of others. Needless to say the hospitals will lose a cash cow...I won't shed a tear.

SMGBobbyScott wrote:

Hopspitals (or at lest their Associations) sure got a pot of gold (a few hunnert mil in one area alone (HEN))

teedubbya wrote:

Well, when 45-50 million people suddenly become insured...hospitals have to win. They just win in different ways. Instead of over billing in the ER and urgent care they will actually get paid for surgery and hospital stays. It will take some time to see how the math will play out but it would be nice to see organization's being paid for what they actually do rather than padded billing (i.e. $500 hammers, toilet seats, etc.) and yes, I know that those were special cases but you get my point.

Also, the issue is that 95% win, 5% are out and the hospitals have to adjust their business model to be more customer focused rather than payor focused. Time will tell if it plays out that way...

SMGBobbyScott wrote:

An overdose on Hope?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

That is odd. I heard they lost a cash cow.

HockeyDad wrote:

I'm trying to figure out if I'm one of the 95% or the 5% when my company eliminates medical insurance

HockeyDad wrote:

...And extra big-ass fries from Carls JR!

HockeyDad wrote:

be both

teedubbya wrote:

it just moved to a different field... and there are many more

that's the problem with the bill is there are little nuggets everywhere.... I'm not sure anyone understands it completely despite all the expert analysis in here

teedubbya wrote:

it just moved

teedubbya wrote: