daveincincy
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:30:21 PM
So I've had, or my PC has had, this issue for a while now. It comes and goes, and sometimes it goes several days or weeks with no issues at all. But when it does act up, it does so frequently, 2 or more times in a row.

I'll be working...mostly...let's just say I'm using my PC, and then things (open windows, cursor arrow, etc) will blink and start flashing, and then things close and the computer shuts down/off all by itself. I'll restart the computer and it will boot back up. Sometimes I'll have no other issues, but sometimes, a few minutes later it will do the same thing....shuts off...I reboot... no warnings, nothing. Then it may be several days or more with no issues. I don't know if it matters or not, but when in "safe mode" I don't recall having this problem.

I've run a bunch of anti-virus, anti-mal/spyware, and other things just to see if anything comes up or can be cleaned out.

Microsoft Security Essentials (anti-virus)...run quick and full scans

Malwarebytes...full and quick scans

Spybot

CCleaner

I've opened up Windows Task Manager > Processes (and applications), but frankly I don't have a clue as to what I'm looking at/for if there is anything at all causing this. The only applications that may be showing at any given time would be Outlook and Internet Explorer. 🤔

Yes, the PC is 🌫 (3-4 years old...5?) It's a basic PC, nothing fancy. FWIW, for a while now, it takes some time to open files, and even when I close a window it's like it's closing in sssllllooowww motion...it's like I'm using an old 386/486 PC. Video/graphics card going out? Motherboard headed for the motherland? 😕

DrafterX
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:44:54 PM
are you getting any Update messages? check out the Windows Update Settings and see if they are automatic or if they are suppose to warm you first... 🤔
DrafterX
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:47:58 PM
might check to see if the fan is still running too... could be getting hot.... 😟
daveincincy
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:50:58 PM
hmmm....funny you should ask. For a while, automatic updates was turned off, and I couldn't turn it on. It wouild give me some error message or a window would pop-up saying unable to turn on (or something like that). That was a while ago (a few months ago). Somehow, eventually, I was able to get it working again....I think I went to Microsoft's website and manually downloaded the latest updates. Since then automatic updates is working, and it will notify me when updates are available. Not sure if that had any cause/affect on the issue I've been having. If I had to guess, I'd say this shutting down on it's own has been going on for around 6 months...I don't really recall.
daveincincy
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:52:08 PM
fan is currently running.

There's probably enough dust in the box for a mouse to make a nice home. 😂

DrafterX
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:54:12 PM

fan is currently running.

There's probably enough dust in the box for a mouse to make a nice home. 😂

daveincincy wrote:

enough dust to make a human..?? 😕

Ilovetosmoke68
Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:04:24 PM
If you can back up all of your files on to dvd/cd, then do so now. If its a fan or heat sinc issue than its only a matter of time before it gets worse. you should be able to hear the fan run and stop once the pc cools down. if it never runs, than that'sprobably your issue. open the cover and watch it.

In my opion, if it works fine in safe mode its not a hardware problem. I make it a point to reinstall the operating system every 2 to 3 years. If you can, reformat the drive also. Windows become more and more unstable as time goes on. A fresh install should fix any issues. Most computers have a partician for recovery and may have an optionto do a full factory reset. Usually a the start up press F8, this will bring up a menue that will allow you to factory reset or even just reinstall the operating system only.

good luck

Joey

daveincincy
Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:35:57 PM
I can hear and feel the fan running (pretty constant).
mikey1597
Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:44:35 PM
blow the dust out of it,,,,,,,,, outside
cacman
Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:51:31 PM
buy a Mac
z6joker9
Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:55:13 PM
Sounds like it's overheating, probably the CPU unless the GPU a card also.

Fan turning or not, still could be- weak fan, thermal compound deteriorating, bad circulation (dust), etc.

http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php 

sr20vet
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:07:38 PM
Yeah first guess from the description was overheating. Dust definitely makes me lean towards that. Clean that **** out.

When it shuts down feel if the heat sink on the CPU is hot, or if you know how to find it go into your BIOS and see what the CPU thermistor (temp sensor) is reading. The comfortable limit is different with every type of CPU, but it's pretty easy to find if you know what you've got.

On a side note the nice thing about overheating is that usually if you find the root of the problem and solve it the computer will be no worse for the wear. What's happens is the thermal protection circuit is activated and the computer shuts down to PREVENT any damage.

Numismaniac
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:12:00 PM

buy a Mac

cacman wrote:

+1

I started not to come in, and this was the only reason why, you beat me to it, brother!

sr20vet
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:21:00 PM
The only thing about a Mac that is any better than your average PC is the aesthetic design. The hardware is literally identical (Intel CPUs, Intel integrated graphics or nVidia/ATi discreet graphics, etc.) and prone to the same problems.

Otherwise it's simply different software, and you can get that to run on either system. I have an OS-X 10.8.2 virtual machine running on my laptop right now. I use it for web and iOS development.

daveincincy
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:33:22 PM

Sounds like it's overheating, probably the CPU unless the GPU a card also.

Fan turning or not, still could be- weak fan, thermal compound deteriorating, bad circulation (dust), etc.

http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php 

z6joker9 wrote:

Out of curiosity I did download it...but can't find it (other than the .exe file) on my PC to save my life. 🤦 I ran it, and it just wanted to load a bunch of other stuff (AOL toolbar, 7zip, etc). I declined most, other than the 7zip which it looked like I needed to open the file...not sure. I can't even find 7zip. Got through the d/l and it said "finished." ....and....I guess it was finished...doing something. 🤔

z6joker9
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:42:13 PM
I'm mobile now but a lot of those download sites will have a custom downloader program or why to install a bunch of crap with it. It's actually kind of tricky to download a free something that you want and nothing more. It should leave you with a program called speedfan that you can run and see diagnostics and such.
TIGERCDW
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:49:30 PM
I'm thinking the power plug for the PC is loose in the wall.

Sometimes when you might make a small movement the plug loses contact.

Check the power cord or just re-wire the whole house.

TIGER

SMGBobbyScott
Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:57:46 PM
If you have that much dust, you probably have an overheating issue, which means that your motherboard's half life can be measured in days/weeks. Make sure you have a good backup of your essential documents and plan on getting a new computer as soon as possible. Beyond that, cleaning out the dust, cobwebs, and dirt will go a long way towards prolonging the life of the machine. Of course, doing updates is always a good idea as well.
daveincincy
Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:17:29 PM
No one has suggested a BFH yet....
daveincincy
Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:19:39 PM
Rewiring the house might be a good idea...but that probably won't solve the problem on my work PC....I guess I never specified that.