bs_kwaj
13 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman#George_Zimmerman 

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Martin had been suspended from school at the time of his death, his third disciplinary suspension of the year.[46] One suspension was for tardiness and truancy.[47] Another suspension in October 2011 was for graffiti, when Martin was observed by a security camera in a restricted area of the school marking up a door with "W.T.F."[47] When he was later searched by a Miami-Dade School Police Department officer, looking for the graffiti marker, the officer found several pieces of women's jewelry in his backpack, which Martin said a friend had given to him. A screwdriver was also found, which was described by the school police investigator as a burglary tool. The jewelry was impounded and given to the police, but no evidence ever surfaced to indicate that the jewelry was stolen.[47] Martin's third suspension involved a marijuana pipe and an empty bag containing marijuana residue.[46] Martin was not charged with any crime related to these incidents and did not have a juvenile record.[48] Judge Nelson ruled that the defense may have access to Martin's records, including the details of these suspensions, as well as access to Martin's social media sites,[49] but ruled they will not be admissible as evidence during the trial unless they can be shown to be relevant.[50]

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About two minutes into the call, Zimmerman said, "he's running."[35] The dispatcher asked, "He's running? Which way is he running?"[93] The sound of a car door chime is heard, indicating Zimmerman opened his car door.[94] Zimmerman followed Martin, eventually losing sight of him.[35] The dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following him. When Zimmerman answered, "yeah," the dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that." Zimmerman responded, "Okay."[95] Zimmerman asked that police call him upon their arrival so he could provide his location.[35] Zimmerman ended the call at 7:15 p.m.[35]

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Zimmerman said he left his truck to find a street sign so he would be able to tell the police dispatcher where he was. He told investigators that he was not following Martin but was "just going in the same direction he was" to find an address, but admitted that he had also left his truck to try to see in which direction Martin had gone.[184] The altercation began, he said, when Martin suddenly appeared while Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle. He described Martin at different points in the interviews as appearing "out of nowhere," "from the darkness," and as "jump[ing] out of the bushes."[184][185] Zimmerman said that Martin asked, "You got a **** problem, homie?" Zimmerman replied no, and then Martin said that he did now, and punched him.[188] As they struggled on the ground, Zimmerman on his back with Martin on top of him, Zimmerman yelled for help "probably 50 times." (See Background sounds of yelling for help in 9-1-1 calls) Martin told him to "Shut the **** up," as he hit him in the face and pounded his head on a concrete sidewalk.[185] When Zimmerman tried to move off the concrete, Martin saw his gun and said "You're going to die tonight ****!" Martin grabbed for the gun, but Zimmerman grabbed it first. He said after firing his weapon at Martin, he wasn't sure at first that he had hit him, so he got on top of him in order to subdue him.[184][184][185] Bystanders and police arrived shortly after Martin was shot.[189][190]

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On June 26, 2012, the prosecution released the results of a voice stress test performed on George Zimmerman the day after the shooting.[192][193] A voice stress test is a type of test used to measure deceptive or psychological stress in the human voice in response to questions.[194] Zimmerman was asked, "Did you confront the guy you shot?", to which Zimmerman answered, "No." Zimmerman was asked, "Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy?", to which Zimmerman answered, "Yes."[192] The examiner concluded that Zimmerman "told substantially the complete truth" in the examination, and Zimmerman was classified as "No Deception Indicated (NDI)" according to the report.[192]


Gene363
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13 years ago
Dershowitz: Zimmerman Special Prosecutor Angela Corey Should Be Disbarred


According to Alan Dershowitz Angela Corey submitted an affidavit that was completely misleading. Violated all kinds of rules of the profession, and her conduct bordered on criminal conduct.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/07/14/alan_dershowitz_zimmerman_special_prosecutor_angela_corey_should_be_disbarred.html 
DrafterX
13 years ago
Zimmerman acted stupidly.... 😟
Mrs.Tank
13 years ago
I have a question... there are some who say that Zimmerman was racially profiling Martin because he resembled youths who had been arrested for recent burglaries... the same kid who was caught with burglary tools and stolen , sorry 'found' items. Does that sound like maybe he was correct to keep an eye on him?
cacman
13 years ago

I have a question... there are some who say that Zimmerman was racially profiling Martin because he resembled youths who had been arrested for recent burglaries... the same kid who was caught with burglary tools and stolen , sorry 'found' items. Does that sound like maybe he was correct to keep an eye on him?

Mrs.Tank wrote:


Yes. There where recent burglaries in the neighborhood (committed other by black men) that IMHO could have lead to reasonable suspicion from Zimmerman. I wouldn't call it racial profiling, but instead making a judgement based upon prior burglaries, facts and truths. However IIRC that was not allowed to be submitted as evidence for the defense. Even if Martin was white, his race would have been difficult to determine in the dark, in the rain, and covered by a hoodie. If Martin was white this trial would never have been given the publicity it has, and the NAACP would never have been involved. It wouldn't have fit the NAACP's racial agenda.

The making of Zimmerman to be a scapegoat continues. He's free but screwed for the rest of his life. They are seeking wrongful death charges in civil court, regardless of how the Florida law reads. And the DOJ is being pressured to try Zimmerman a second time for the same crime, but under a different charge of Civil Rights Violation ignoring double-jeopardy. Can't convict on the first charge, so they'll try something else.

Why is the White House and Government even involved?? Is the WH going to get involved every time a black teen is killed? They could all be "Obama's son"?!?! Doesn't the WH have bigger issues to be dealing with? I'd bet my last dollar there was a young black boy killed yesterday by one of his own, and nobody saw a thing. Where's the coverage of that? Where's the media coverage of the following:
http://freepatriot.org/2013/07/11/media-blackout-group-arrested-for-hunting-whites/ 

Who keeps making this a racial issue?
rfenst
13 years ago
Be patient. Now that the trial is over, loads of new information is coming out.
Taps86
13 years ago
Little Rock Arkansas just went nuts.

https://twitter.com/THV11 
rfenst
13 years ago

Dershowitz: Zimmerman Special Prosecutor Angela Corey Should Be Disbarred


According to Alan Dershowitz Angela Corey submitted an affidavit that was completely misleading. Violated all kinds of rules of the profession, and her conduct bordered on criminal conduct.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/07/14/alan_dershowitz_zimmerman_special_prosecutor_angela_corey_should_be_disbarred.html 

Gene363 wrote:




Since when do you agree with "The Dersh"?

Angela Corey could be Florida's new Lt. Governor...

And, all of this isn't over. He and his wife still face perjury charges for which they should be convicted,
rfenst
13 years ago

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/14/whistle-blowing-state-official-fired-after-testimony-in-zimmerman-trial/

state fires official for whistle blowing on them for concealing evidence......

Papachristou wrote:



Bunch of m. f'ing liars.


DOJ exploring federal charges......why???? let's keep stirring the pot!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/15/as-justice-pursues-civil-rights-case-against-zimmerman-fbi-documents-show-no/ 

Papachristou wrote:



150-200 witnesses and dozens and dozens and dozens of interviews and depositions later, the prosecution still declines to allege racial profiling. How the hell could anyone else prove it?

I think talk of DoJ involvement is just a form of appeasement until things simmer down.


Z and his wife just needs to do some time of sort for their bail-hearing perjury and this whole thing will go away. I do not take the perjury lightly...
Gene363
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13 years ago

Since when do you agree with "The Dersh"?

Angela Corey could be Florida's new Lt. Governor...

And, all of this isn't over. He and his wife still face perjury charges for which they should be convicted,

rfenst wrote:



Shouldn't I? Even the ACLU does some good.

I think you are correct about the DOJ and the sooner they get the perjury charges in court the more it too will mollify the rabble.

rfenst
13 years ago

Shouldn't I? Even the ACLU does some good.

I think you are correct about the DOJ and the sooner they get the perjury charges in court the more it too will mollify the rabble.

Gene363 wrote:



I was just half joking about Dersh. He is indeed brilliant IMO. ACLU does us all more good than people realize.
wheelrite
13 years ago

I was just half joking about Dersh. He is indeed brilliant IMO. ACLU does us all more good than people realize.

rfenst wrote:



really?

explain,,,
DrafterX
13 years ago
Zimmerman should sue the Martins for wrongful arrest and slander.... 😟
cacman
13 years ago

Zimmerman should sue the Martins for wrongful arrest and slander.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


Heard Z was pursuing a defamation suit against one of the media networks?
Papachristou
13 years ago

Heard Z was pursuing a defamation suit against one of the media networks?

cacman wrote:



yes, against NBC for editing the 911 call i believe. He should win enough to move to the carribean or back to peru....
DrafterX
13 years ago
🤔
so, Tryavon wasn't just walking down the sidewalk he was cutting thru peoples backyards and stuff..... 🤔
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

yes, against NBC for editing the 911 call i believe. He should win enough to move to the carribean or back to peru....

Papachristou wrote:


=d>
Gene363
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13 years ago

I was just half joking about Dersh. He is indeed brilliant IMO. ACLU does us all more good than people realize.

rfenst wrote:



I'm beginning to see legal entities or points of view as I view religions. The more you have, the less likely one is going to feel the need/right/empowerment to impose it's doctrine on everyone.
DrafterX
13 years ago
would Holder have a better chance with the Federal Hate Crime if Trayvon had been gay-homo too..?? 😕
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