8trackdisco
12 years ago
It's like a war between the Cowboys and the Vikings. The longer and bloodier the battle, the better.

Obama wants to spend money we don't have to arm rebels and Al Qeida militants.

Funding Al-Qeida, while spying on law abiding Americans. Your tax dollars at work. Is this how you want your money spent?

I hope he does the next "right thing". Giving Al-Qeida food stamps, Medicaid benefits, drivers licenses, and a pathway to citizenship. The public schools also should be forced (at taxpayer expense) to teach Arabic in our schools, to celebrate diversity.

After all, they are just looking for a better life.
Brewha
12 years ago
I do believe that Obama does the bidding of those whom are in charge.

As to the rest, hate is a blinding thing. Is it not?
Brewha
12 years ago

And the sad part is that rightfully or wrongfully they ALL think they're ENTITLED to that "free" money whether it's early retirement (prior to age 62), mental/sacroiliac disabilities which are difficult to disprove, or substinance welfare in general.
The Greeks and French like most of Europe had GENERATIONS of deadbeats who inherited positions/pensions/government contracts. When they had that rescinded & had at least 50% taken away due to austerity measures, they picked up bricks. That's not going to help them this time however. The treasury has NOTHING and many are losing generations of family property which were previously tax free.

10-9-8-7-6-5... waiting for American squawking chickens to return to coops after free ranging all this time.[ram27bat]

bloody spaniard wrote:



And what of US corporate welfare? Or legal Wall Street theft?

You carp about a few of the poor swindling pennies, while the real crimes are protected by law.
DrafterX
12 years ago
stupid carp... always messing up a good fishing trip 😠
Lou Sanis
12 years ago
Corporations and business are what make this country great. The poor and unwashed are like an anchor. And the able who quit early and live on welfare or fleece the tax payers are worse yet.

But none of this has anything to do with the cost of head cheese in Syria.
HockeyDad
12 years ago
Send the poor and unwashed to Syria.

(Tied that one up with a bow on it !)
Lou Sanis
12 years ago
I'm with you to an extent. There are others that need to go too. People who still can work, yet don't, need to go to. I read the disability thread and it seems like the prevailing thought is if you can leverage the system to benefit the individual then to he'll with the good of the country or the manny. Also those that retire young. That is simply quitting and allowing this country to fail. Send them all.
HockeyDad
12 years ago

I read the disability thread and it seems like the prevailing thought is if you can leverage the system to benefit the individual then to he'll with the good of the country or the manny.

Lou Sanis wrote:



That is what is now known as "The American Way"





Also those that retire young. That is simply quitting and allowing this country to fail. Send them all.

Lou Sanis wrote:



Who is John Galt?
Lou Sanis
12 years ago
I have no **** clue who John Galt is. Did he quit on his country too?
Gene363
12 years ago

I'm with you to an extent. There are others that need to go too. People who still can work, yet don't, need to go to. I read the disability thread and it seems like the prevailing thought is if you can leverage the system to benefit the individual then to he'll with the good of the country or the manny. Also those that retire young. That is simply quitting and allowing this country to fail. Send them all.

Lou Sanis wrote:



I shorted my family, my life, and my health working. I worked my ass off, sacrificed, paid cash when I could and did my best to avoid the slavery of debt. I put in my time working as a corporate 'slave', as an independent businessman and always a slave to taxes. I retired early to enjoy life a little and give something back to the my family. If you hate that, tough. OTOH, if you are just jealous, hate on, it makes my retirement even sweeter. [beer] [fog]
Lou Sanis
12 years ago
I think it is admirable when people are still able to contribute towards the greater good but choose not to.
bloody spaniard
12 years ago
[quote=Lou Sanis]I'm with you to an extent. There are others that need to go too. People who still can work, yet don't, need to go to. I read the disability thread and it seems like the prevailing thought is if you can leverage the system to benefit the individual then to he'll with the good of the country or the manny. Also those that retire young. That is simply quitting and allowing this country to fail. Send them all.[/quote]
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Uncle Sugar's free ride is over 'cause he's broke and paying with fake credit.

Same thing applies to retired, golfing folks who have adequate reserves and still suck at Uncle Sam's wrinkled teats with concave cheeks for all its worth. Benefits should be more difficult to get AND should be prorated based on need. None of this pea/shell hiding of assets among family so that you can qualify either. If you're able and don't like working get your fat lazy ass the eff out. These will be among the first animals to panic and throw rocks when the checks stop as they have in other parts of the world.

Brew, everyone knows the stranglehold that the Goldman Sachs of the world have on this country.
Even the architect of the "trickle down" theory, David Stockman, realized it didn't really work. It merely empowered the loyal-less, parasitic corporate culture. As proud Reaganites we BOTH cried.
Gene363
12 years ago

[quote=Lou Sanis]I'm with you to an extent. There are others that need to go too. People who still can work, yet don't, need to go to. I read the disability thread and it seems like the prevailing thought is if you can leverage the system to benefit the individual then to he'll with the good of the country or the manny. Also those that retire young. That is simply quitting and allowing this country to fail. Send them all.[/quote]
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Uncle Sugar's free ride is over 'cause he's broke and paying with fake credit.

Same thing applies to retired, golfing folks who have adequate reserves and still suck at Uncle Sam's wrinkled teats with concave cheeks for all its worth. Benefits should be more difficult to get AND should be prorated based on need. None of this pea/shell hiding of assets among family so that you can qualify either. If you're able and don't like working get your fat lazy ass the eff out. These will be among the first animals to panic and throw rocks when the checks stop as they have in other parts of the world.

Brew, everyone knows the stranglehold that the Goldman Sachs of the world have on this country.
Even the architect of the "trickle down" theory, David Stockman, realized it didn't really work. It merely empowered the loyal-less, parasitic corporate culture. As proud Reaganites we BOTH cried.

bloody spaniard wrote:





What are "adequate reserves" and who is going to decide that? Means testing is already built into Social Security and if you earn above $113k, they stop taking SS. #-o

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/02/means-testing-social-security 

The idea of rewarding success by taking it and giving it to others is really foreign to me. Congress stole the money from SS and now they are talking about going after and 'protecting' 401k funds, heaven help us! The French had it right during the Reign of Terror; we need to start Guillotine Manufacturing Ltd, in a small non state district.

Meanwhile, I didn't have a choice about participating in Social Security. I'm getting my money back a little at a time, assuming I live long enough. I started paying when I was 15 years old.


Goldman Sachs at least shares a little with some of us who hold their paper and stock schemes.

bloody spaniard
12 years ago
That's interesting. I happen to know first hand, millionaires who collect social security. They must be the exception to the "means testing" rule.
Just another lie. Guess it all depends on who does your books.

And the Goldman folks that I was referring to are the ones assigned to sensitive government finance posts that dictate policy.
DrafterX
12 years ago
Just hours after U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry made an off-hand comment about how Syria could avert a military strike by turning over its chemical weapons program, Russia's foreign minister is proposing that the Assad regime do just that.

Sergey Lavrov said Monday that Russia will push Syria to place its chemical weapons under international control.

"If the establishment of international control over chemical weapons in that country would allow avoiding strikes, we will immediately start working with Damascus," Lavrov said.

The plan could challenge Kerry over comments he made during an earlier press conference in London. Kerry said early Monday morning that if Bashar Assad wanted to defuse the crisis, "he could turn every single bit of his chemical weapons over to the international community" within a week.

But Kerry claimed that Assad "isn't about to do it" -- and an aide suggested the secretary was not being serious.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki clarified that Kerry "was making a rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons he has denied he used."

She added: "His point was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons otherwise he would have done so long ago."

While the State Department tried to walk back Kerry's statement, Lavrov said he has already handed over the proposal and expects a "quick, and hopefully, positive answer."

"We are calling on the Syrian leadership to not only agree on placing chemical weapons storage sites under international control, but also on its subsequent destruction and fully joining the treaty on prohibition of chemical weapons," he said.

His statement followed media reports alleging that Russian President Vladimir Putin, who discussed Syria with President Obama during the group of 20 summit in St. Petersburg last week, sought to negotiate a deal that would have Assad hand over control of chemical weapons.

Speaking earlier in the day, Lavrov denied that Russia was trying to sponsor any deal "behind the back of the Syrian people."

As Russia claims to be trying to defuse the crisis, the U.S. Congress is poised to begin voting this week on a resolution authorizing the use of force in Syria.

Film at 11.... 🤔 🤔




Seems reasonable but now he was just kiddin... 🤦
Gene363
12 years ago

That's interesting. I happen to know first hand, millionaires who collect social security. They must be the exception to the "means testing" rule.
Just another lie. Guess it all depends on who does your books.

And the Goldman folks that I was referring to are the ones assigned to sensitive government finance posts that dictate policy.

bloody spaniard wrote:



Millionaires are a dime a dozen today. You didn't read the MJ article and it was just one page, nonetheless:


Want some evidence? Well, it turns out that Social Security is already means tested: your benefit level is calculated as 90% of your first $749 in monthly pre-retirement earnings, 32% of earnings up to $4,517, and 15% of your earnings above that. This means that high-income earners get a smaller benefit as a percentage of their income than low earners do.



It's not punishment of the rich you appear to desire, but they get a lot less for what they put it, their benefits are capped.

It's going to take a lot more than restricting benefits to continue to fund SS.

Meanwhile, those rich bass turds are enjoying them selves. [horse]

bloody spaniard
12 years ago
intelligent retort🍺
DrafterX
12 years ago
BREAKING NEWS:
Syria "welcomes" Russia's proposal for President Bashar al-Assad's regime to put its chemical weapons under international control, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem told reporters in Moscow today.

Film at 11...... 🤦


I think we're about to find out how bad Obama wants to drop some bombs.... 😟
HockeyDad
12 years ago
The Russians. Should begin flying in troops immediately to guard the chemival weapons. Except the ones the rebels have.
HockeyDad
12 years ago

That's interesting. I happen to know first hand, millionaires who collect social security. They must be the exception to the "means testing" rule.
Just another lie. Guess it all depends on who does your books.

And the Goldman folks that I was referring to are the ones assigned to sensitive government finance posts that dictate policy.

bloody spaniard wrote:




High income earners also pay into social security. I'm not sure why their benefits should be confiscated.

That's like punishing success or is it just "paying your fair share"?
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