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ZRX1200
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12 years ago

#21

Who's the same group?

Racial profiling works btw. Though I don't agree with it.

Bur
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12 years ago

#22

Profiling works. Racial group is just one component of it and a very generic one. It's not foolproof, as there are currently Thai and Indian (both perceived as peaceful) Buddhist (same, perceived peaceful) terrorists/violent extremist, and also an effective terrorist/insurgent/violent extremist organization (VEO) recruits non-racially profilable individuals to counter purely reactionary racial profiling.

Jeez, this is too much like work (well, exactly like work-I teach this stuff) and I come on here to relax, talk smack and learn about cee-gars.

And those three wise men with the exploding cigars we sing about, were they terrorists?

Gene363
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12 years ago

#23

The Founding Fathers were terrorists according to the British.

The escape pod: https://cigarbid.freeforums.net

rfenst
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12 years ago

#24

The Founding Fathers were terrorists according to the British.

Gene363 wrote:

I don't think terrorists in the beginning although they did use some non-traditional warefare. But, they certainly wereey were radical liberals in their time.

Everything is relevant to its own time...

Edited by user 12 years ago | Reason: Not specified

cacman
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12 years ago

#25

The Founding Fathers were terrorists according to the British.

Gene363 wrote:

Yes. The original American militia!

The current Administration obviously does agree with this part of American history.

Edited by user 12 years ago | Reason: Not specified

DadZilla3
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12 years ago

#26

Not to point out the obvious hypocrisy, but isn't this the same group saying we should profile Muslims because being Muslim may indicate someone's a terrorist?

victor809 wrote:

...because when it comes to suspected international terrorist activities, everybody knows the Swedes are the group that should be profiled.

rfenst
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12 years ago

#27

...because when it comes to suspected international terrorist activities, everybody knows the Swedes are the group that should be profiled.

DadZilla3 wrote:

Yeah, like the white guy... Timothy McVay? Extremism and associated violence cut across all racial and ethnic lines.

dstieger
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12 years ago

#28

Glock is a gateway gun.

DadZilla3
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12 years ago

#29

Yeah, like the white guy... Timothy McVay? Extremism and associated violence cut across all racial and ethnic lines.

rfenst wrote:

True...on a ratio of about 100,000 to 1.

Edited by user 12 years ago | Reason: Not specified

victor809
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12 years ago

#30

That ratio becomes a lot closer if you're profiling white guys stockpiling guns/ammo like you profile Muslims.

I'm not a fan of profiling at all, creates a sense of complacency, clearly outlines all your blind spots for the enemies, etc etc.... But I think it's funny how a group that wants to profile one set of extremists doesn't want another set of extremists profiled, since they may get caught up in that net.

And BTW, I don't believe swedes would get caught by the arms profile... the swedes are Limited to 6 rifles, or 10 handguns or a mix of 8....

HockeyDad
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12 years ago

#31

Everyone is a suspect. No reason to profile.

teedubbya
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12 years ago

#32

Everyone is a suspect. No reason to profile.

HockeyDad wrote:

maybe we could charge folks for a full background check including prints and a check of all aquantences in order to get off the suspect list and be pre approved. Once every 3-5 years should suffice. We can outsource it.

Buckwheat
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12 years ago

#33

I'm not but my dog is. She had a very large stash of stuffed toys. I think that it indicates that she is seriously disturbed the way she tore them apart. Most were in really bad shape. I turned her in the other day.

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#34

You Bassard..!! 😠

teedubbya
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12 years ago

#35

When Louie tried that crap I didn't turn him in I just punched him in the mouf

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#36

poor Louie-dog... 😞

tailgater
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12 years ago

#37

Not to point out the obvious hypocrisy, but isn't this the same group saying we should profile Muslims because being Muslim may indicate someone's a terrorist?

victor809 wrote:

I know what you're getting at, but it's inaccurate.

We know of many muslim extremist groups that are terrorists or support terrorism.

How many American Citizens with an "unusual" quantity of firearms have committed acts of terror?

DadZilla3
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12 years ago

#38

victor809 wrote:

Not profiling creates a false security blanket of political correctness and clearly creates one enormous, well-publicized blind spot for your enemies. Muslims being profiled is a direct result of the past actions of a sizable number their fundamentalist, extremist members...not on account of some imaginary future threat as in the case of middle class white guys who accumulate guns and ammo, and like to run around in the woods wearing the latest in tree bark camo fashions from Cabelas.

You know the old saying...extremist Muslims try to kill you, while moderate Muslims just wait for the extremist Muslims to kill you.

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victor809
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12 years ago

#39

.... You do realize that middle class white guys accumulating guns actually do perform terrorist acts, right? Wiki terrorism in the US... There's extensive lists for each type of group, from right wing to militant black to Muslim. To say we should just profile one of these groups but it's unfair to profile another is hypocritical.

Again... I don't want to profile dumb ass white guys, nor do I want to profile Muslims. I think it's funny and hypocritical that you feel one is justified over the other.

Bur
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12 years ago

#40

Victor, are you counting school shootings as "white middle class terrorism"? In most cases those don't fit the DoJ or DoD definitions of terrorism as they are not trying to accomplish political or ideological change. Violent? yes. Criminal? yes. But that doesn't make it terrorism although there are many looser definitions that others lump events into to draw conclusions and associations that don't truly fit.

Of course, the two brothers in Boston weren't part of Al Qaida either. Inspired by "Inspire" magazine-which is an AQ-Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) publication for sure but not "card carrying" members of AQ or any of its franchises.

Profiling works, but simply saying "racial profiling" makes the conversation take an emotional turn. Ask any effective investigator or intelligence analyst and at some point they will admit they profile-as do each of us. When we ask what cigars a BOTL likes we are basically creating a profile.

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