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Abrignac
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12 years ago

#21

Kinda funny the way this has been spun. Initially it was an expedition to prove global warming. Now it being billed as retracing some historic expedition. Go figure.

Brewha
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12 years ago

#22

Kinda funny the way this has been spun. Initially it was an expedition to prove global warming. Now it being billed as retracing some historic expedition. Go figure.

Abrignac wrote:

Global warming, from pollution, need no further proving. You just can't prove science to a Teabillie . . .

Abrignac
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12 years ago

#23

Global warming, from pollution, need no further proving. You just can't prove science to a Teabillie . . .

Brewha wrote:

Nor to a Libtard...

ZRX1200
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12 years ago

#24

They're TOURISTS!!!

LMAO!!!!

MACS
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12 years ago

#25

Global warming, from pollution, need no further proving. You just can't prove science to a Teabillie . . .

Brewha wrote:

Damn you're stoopid.

DadZilla3
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12 years ago

#26

Global warming, from pollution, need no further proving. You just can't prove science to a Teabillie . . .

Brewha wrote:

Tsk, tsk. Global Warming is an obsolete term, Brewha. The libtard barking moon bats cleverly adopted all-encompassing term: 'Climate Change' awhile back. Have you not been keeping up with the 2 minutes of hate Tweets from the Kenyan King or something? 😳

Actually, a more appropriate term would be 'Global Whatevering'. That way the libtards can jabber and fling poo at one another no matter what the global climate is doing.

HockeyDad
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12 years ago

#27

Global warming, from pollution, need no further proving. You just can't prove science to a Teabillie . . .

Brewha wrote:

Global warming from pollution might be happening and if so it would be lessening the overall global cooling period we are in now. Fight the next ice age.

(no, I don't nee my windows cleaned. I just washed the car)

DrMaddVibe
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12 years ago

#28

Irony - 3

Science - 0

It was a close call…it was reviewed by the booth…the play on the ice stands…"Global Whatevering" is a goal!

DrMaddVibe
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12 years ago

#29

If only we wudda saved a bit and bought some portable heaters…why…those scientists that want to play "Gilligan's Island" wouldn't be stuck right now!

Americans Spent $7.45B in 3 Years Helping Other Countries Deal With ‘Climate Change’

American taxpayers spent $7.45 billion to help developing countries cope with climate change in fiscal years 2010 through 2012, according to a federal government report submitted to the United Nations on a subject that Secretary of State John Kerry described as “a truly life-and-death challenge.”

That sum of $7.45 billion, which reached more than 120 countries through bilateral and multilateral channels, met President Obama’s “commitment to provide our fair share” of a collective pledge by developed nations to provide a total of nearly $30 billion in “fast start finance” (FSF), the report stated.

The pledge was made at a Dec. 2009 U.N. climate conference in Copenhagen, and the FSF funding aims to support developing countries adapt to and cope with phenomena blamed on climate change, such as droughts and rising sea levels.

“International assistance for climate change continues to be a major priority for the United States,” the administration said in its “Climate Action Report,” submitted to the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) on Wednesday.

It noted that since the U.S. ratified the convention in 1992, its international climate funding had increased from “virtually zero” to an average of $2.5 billion each year in the 2010-2012 FSF period.

“During the period, average annual appropriated climate assistance increased fourfold compared with 2009 funding levels,” the report said. “U.S. climate assistance has increased in the context of an overall increasing foreign assistance budget.”

According to UNFCCC data, of the $7.45 billion in U.S. funding, $4.7 billion was congressionally-appropriated assistance while development finance and export credit support accounted for a further $2.7 billion of public money.

It’s time to ‘do what our faiths require of us’

In a cover letter accompanying the report, Kerry underlined the high priority the administration – and himself personally – accords to the issue.

“Climate change is one of the most urgent and profoundly complex challenges we face,” he wrote. “That’s why, everywhere I travel as Secretary of State – in every meeting, here at home and across the more than 280,000 miles I’ve traveled since I raised my hand and took the oath to serve in this office – I have made this issue a top priority.”

Without directly mentioning those scientists and others who question the “consensus” on climate change, Kerry reiterated his view that the science is incontrovertible and implied that anyone arguing otherwise lacked “conscience or common sense.”

“Today, all the scientific evidence is telling us that we cannot afford to delay the reckoning with climate change,” he said. “With each passing day, the case grows more compelling and the costs of inaction grow beyond anything that anyone with conscience or common sense should be willing to contemplate.”

Kerry pointed to the most report by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), released last September, and summed it up as follows: “Bottom line: Climate change is real, it’s happening now, and human beings are the cause.”

(The report’s actual wording was, “It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.” The language was somewhat stronger than the previous IPCC report, in 2007, which asserted that global warming was “very likely” man-made.)

“In the face of these risks and these warnings, it is time for all of us to do what the science tells us we must, to do what our faiths require of us, and to do what our fragile planet demands of us: It’s time to take strong action to combat a truly life-and-death challenge,” Kerry stated.

Much more to come

FSF programs funded by the U.S. cover a wide range, including helping Peru and Nepal to deal with glacier-related risks, working on making Mozambique’s coastal cities more resilient to “sea level rise and other climate change stresses,” and assisting Pakistan to address its power shortage, reduce greenhouse gas emissions and its reliance on fossil fuel.

The funding directed to the FSF channel in 2010-2012 is a drop in the bucket compared to what is to come. At that same 2009 conference in Copenhagen the U.S. and other developed nations in a longer-term commitment undertook to set up a $100 billion-a-year Green Climate Fund by 2020. The money is meant to come from public and private sources.

“The United States is prepared to work with other countries toward a goal of jointly mobilizing $100 billion a year by 2020 to address the climate change needs of developing countries,” then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said at Copenhagen. “We expect this funding will come from a wide variety of sources, public and private, bilateral and multilateral, including alternative sources of finance.”

Since the GCF was launched in 2011 few nations have begun to direct money to its coffers (as of June 30, 2013 it had received just $7.5 million, from seven European countries plus South Korea, Japan and Australia.)

But officials want that to change this year, as UNFCCC executive secretary Christiana Figueres made clear while speaking at the opening of the GCF’s new headquarters in South Korea on Dec. 4.

“Governments now have a crucial tool at their disposal to leverage billions in finance for developing counties to green their economies and increase their resilience to the inevitable effects of climate change,” she said.

“As soon as the final modalities are clarified in 2014, governments must capitalize the fund. This is essential so that developing countries know that the developed world will deliver on its promise to help the poor and vulnerable gain access to the finance and technology they need.”

In the report sent to the UNFCCC this week the administration outlined its commitment in mobilizing public and private funding in working towards the GCF goal.

“Maintaining a strong core of public climate finance is essential, and the United States intends to maintain its commitment to climate change as an important component in the U.S. assistance budget,” it said.

“Private investment will inevitably play an increasingly important role as developing countries put mitigation and adaptation policies and actions into place. The nation is working to combine its significant, but finite, public resources with targeted, smart policies to mobilize maximum private investment into climate-friendly activities.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/americans-spent-745b-3-years-helping-other-countries-deal-climate#sthash.6GzvUXtr.mKXh9YG7.dpuf

We cudda just saved the money and sent them to www.wunderground.com.

PS: Secretary of State Lurch could prolly alter the weather if he just stopped flying all over the world and used some sweet video teleconferencing…jus sayin'

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stogiemonger
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12 years ago

#30

Man made global warming, or climate change (if you prefer, especially during winter) is simply scientific hypothesis, at this point in time.

Remember this "scientific community" is the same one that was warning of an impending ice age looming, due to the sun slowly burning up, just 35-40 years ago.

Abrignac
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12 years ago

#31

Just another means to siphon public funds.

stogiemonger
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12 years ago

#32

Some scientist are warning of an impending ice age now due to decreased solar energy coming from the sun. A cyclical solar event.

These are real scientist with real data which could prove to be real wrong, as well.

Brewha
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12 years ago

#33

Damn you're stoopid.

MACS wrote:

That's it man! Lean into it with your intellect . . . .

Brewha
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12 years ago

#34

DadZilla3 wrote:

DZ, remember when we had to get rid of Florocarbons because they were destroying the Ozone? You figure that was fake too?
Do you not understand the effect of greenhouse gasses? Or is it that you just don't care?

Brewha
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12 years ago

#35

HockeyDad wrote:

YOU own a car???

jk

MACS
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12 years ago

#36

That's it man! Lean into it with your intellect . . . .

Brewha wrote:

No point. I could slap you in the face with a giant fact book and it wouldn't change your mind.

I'm a rational person. I will admit when I am wrong and change my opinion when presented with information that warrants a change. And I don't attach myself with a pitbull's ferocity to something just because I want it to be true, or it lines up with my political ideology.

Climate change caused by man has not been proven, nor disproved. The fact is, and we know this for sure, the planet has cooled and warmed for millions of years. Not enough data yet to say what effect we're having one way or another. And even the damn scientists can't agree...

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#37

DZ, remember when we had to get rid of Florocarbons because they were destroying the Ozone? You figure that was fake too?

Brewha wrote:

I figured it was cause dupont invented a new freon and a few congressmen pushed it thru.... worked even better than the 'New Coke'.... 😟

Abrignac
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12 years ago

#38

MACS wrote:

Forget it Sean. No matter what you say to him, he'll only offer drivel in return. No facts, just drivel and sarcasm. Why feel the troll?

edin508
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12 years ago

#39

Bucket of shiners and ice traps ready for the morning! Damn warming.

Brewha
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12 years ago

#40

MACS wrote:

I can repect your conviction and even your conclusion. But if I read you correctly you believe that there in not a concensus among scientists, there fore pollution is not effecting the climate. Oil company funded propaganda aside, this is not a tenable - or responsible - position. Given what is at stake for our children, not a responsible position at all.

And since you neither agree with the overwelming majority of scientists, or the United States Governent I guess I can't muster that giant fact book for you either.

So I guess we will agree to disagree - one bit bull to another.

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