Burner02
12 years ago

My private market insurance company was nice enough to renew everything on December 31, 2013, before the new provisions went into place. I'm concerned that my current plan will cancel at the end of this year. The cheapest plan on the exchange is 2.5X the cost of what I'm paying now, but only covers 60% after deductible.

z6joker9 wrote:





But you will be better off.

Right?
cacman
12 years ago

"Let me get this straight . . . . We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are
forced to purchase and fined if we don't, which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, who have recently demonstrated their objective and professional integrity.
Written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it,
and signed by a Dumbo President who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who
didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, and the Post Office all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese,
and financed by a country that's broke!!!!!

'What the hell could possibly go wrong?"

~D. Trump

deadeyedick wrote:


budda-bing!!!
We have a winner!
tailgater
12 years ago
Just to be clear.

F*ck Obamacare and anyone who thinks it's good.

You want to come pay my 31.4% increase this year in our premium and I might reconsider my condemnation of you.
Maybe.

victor809
12 years ago
Oh come on...
Yes Obamacare is irritating.
Yes I personally think single payer medicine will have a SERIOUS impact on new drug development in the long term

But the whining... you are acting like it's a huge tragedy. You give someone money, they give you coverage.... no need for histrionics... what's a couple hundred here or there?
Bitter Klinger
12 years ago

the affordable care act is alive and well not withstanding repubicans that

have nothing to offer, and idiots that listen to them

RICKAMAVEN wrote:



LIME JELLO IN THE DAY ROOM!
tailgater
12 years ago

Oh come on...
Yes Obamacare is irritating.
Yes I personally think single payer medicine will have a SERIOUS impact on new drug development in the long term

But the whining... you are acting like it's a huge tragedy. You give someone money, they give you coverage.... no need for histrionics... what's a couple hundred here or there?

victor809 wrote:



As single dude, you have zero perspective on this.

My offer stands.
Bitter Klinger
12 years ago

Oh come on...
Yes Obamacare is irritating.
Yes I personally think single payer medicine will have a SERIOUS impact on new drug development in the long term

But the whining... you are acting like it's a huge tragedy. You give someone money, they give you coverage.... no need for histrionics... what's a couple hundred here or there?

victor809 wrote:




Really?!

Here is what happened on January 1st 2014:
Top Income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6%
Top Income payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2%
Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28%
Dividends tax went from 15% to 39.6%
Estate tax went from 0% to 55%

Remember this fact: if you have money, the democrats want it. These taxes were all passed only with democrat votes, no republicans voted for these taxes.

These taxes were all passed under the affordable care act, aka Obamacare.

TMCTLT
12 years ago

Really?!

Here is what happened on January 1st 2014:
Top Income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6%
Top Income payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2%
Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28%
Dividends tax went from 15% to 39.6%
Estate tax went from 0% to 55%

Remember this fact: if you have money, the democrats want it. These taxes were all passed only with democrat votes, no republicans voted for these taxes.

These taxes were all passed under the affordable care act, aka Obamacare.

Bitter Klinger wrote:




How dare you try to confuse Victoria with factual tax info.....🌫
sd72
12 years ago
The people paying top bracket taxes are still laughing. What's not posted is the thousands of loopholes, write offs, and back doors.

I'm paying a higher percentage of my income to taxes than any billionaire. And I'm a hundredaire.

Why didn't Romney want his tax returns made public? Buffets secretary still pays more % than he does.
gryphonms
12 years ago
SD, I'll bet your at least a thousandaire!
cacman
12 years ago

The people paying top bracket taxes are still laughing. What's not posted is the thousands of loopholes, write offs, and back doors.

I'm paying a higher percentage of my income to taxes than any billionaire. And I'm a hundredaire.

Why didn't Romney want his tax returns made public? Buffets secretary still pays more % than he does.

sd72 wrote:


Buffets secretary is an employee and pays wage taxes just like you. Buffet earns money through his investments - dividends, interest, capital gains, etc. There is no way some one who takes the risks and invests should have to pay as much in taxes as those who simply work 8-5. There must be an incentive for people to invest (like lower taxes on gains) or there's no reason to invest. Don't kid yourself you ten-thousandaire with a 401k. When you retire and start withdrawing money from your retirement savings, you'll be bitching about losing almost 40% in taxes to support the lazy slobs that refuse to work and live a lifetime on welfare and the guberment teet.

And if you remember, a lot of the "loopholes & write-offs" you think you understand where closed when they raised your taxes.
sd72
12 years ago
Screw it. I'll just work till I die.

For cash. Bwahahahahaha.
scompay
12 years ago
I am with cacman- there should be an incentive to be successful. Or people will be comfortable being "hundredaires"

Truth is the poor pay more for everything! even interest! sadly no one really sees that the greatest welfare recipients are the wealthy, and I am not saying that that should change. Just stating a fact.

p.s. before some spry effer jumps on me that folks who lend money (i.e. risk takers) should be rewarded. Bull****- they borrow from the govt for 2% interest, lend you the money at 15% and if they fail, they just change the company name or get bailout- if you fail, your kids pay for your debt.

Lets put that in numbers, a rich person borrows $1000 and pays back $1100, over 5 years, with zero risk! like Lehman bros, if they cant pay it, they tell everyone to go fly a kite. You borrow $1000 and pay $2100 back with risk of losing more than the $1000 they borrowed.
sd72
12 years ago
Don't mock the hundreds I've amassed. Jerk.
teedubbya
12 years ago
I used to have $3.75
sd72
12 years ago
Think I'm gonna go spend some. New piggy bank maybe.
victor809
12 years ago

Really?!

Here is what happened on January 1st 2014:
Top Income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6%
Top Income payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2%
Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28%
Dividends tax went from 15% to 39.6%
Estate tax went from 0% to 55%

Remember this fact: if you have money, the democrats want it. These taxes were all passed only with democrat votes, no republicans voted for these taxes.

These taxes were all passed under the affordable care act, aka Obamacare.

Bitter Klinger wrote:



Bitter... you strike me as one of those old guys who forwards on every frantic email he gets, without ever bothering to check. This is just another one of those.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/t/2014-Tax-Increases.htm#.U1LLPfldWSo 

And TMC....string of consonants... TPwhatever, you may want to make sure it's "factual tax info" before hitching your wagon to it.
sd72
12 years ago
Great. Another "fact" guy.
DrafterX
12 years ago
Bassards...!! 😠
scompay
12 years ago

you strike me as one of those old guys who forwards on every frantic email he gets, without ever bothering to check.

victor809 wrote:



doesnt that sum up all the disgruntled folks.

I know folks emptying an entire clip after saying 'Obamacare has ruined my children's future' (their kids are 2 and 4)
As if they know that for a fact, and they know for a fact that their children were going to be a success.

Anymore, folks just need a good excuse to be disgruntle, its a form of masturbation really. The only thing that makes sexual masturbation blatantly wrong is that there is no good justification and you cant deny that its all in your head. The other varieties are socially accepted and you can start a circle jerk.

how are you celebrating the departure of our lord?
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