I love how everything just appeared without saying something at some point WAS created.

ZRX1200 wrote:

The adjectives "creation" and "evolution" get added to the term "science" when the matter of presuppositions and conclusions are dealt with. There is no scientist anywhere in the world who does not hold to some kind of presuppositional truth in his own life. That which he considers true will invariably color his understanding of the science he is involved with. Thus, those who believe evolution to be true will see their work in terms of evolution theory. Those who believe creation to be true will see their work in terms of creation theory. Each will form conclusions based on what they consider true in the first place. The data can be exactly the same, but the conclusions can be radically different because of this. Thus, "creation science" is not a separate science itself, but a way of looking at science through the eyes of those who believe, in whatever form, that the universe and all life was the result of creation by some kind of deity.


Pretty well covers it in my mind...thank you.

TMCTLT wrote:

Victor send me $325.87 and I will explain it and lead you to salvation ....

ZRX1200 wrote:

Damn... I thought they only charged TW $3.75... :(

victor809 wrote:

I don’t believe that creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive. I believe the truth lies somewhere in between. Dinosaurs were real; we have solid, tangible evidence of that. Evolution is real; we have solid, tangible evidence of that.

How did it all get here? Was it a spontaneous combustion type big bang? Personally, I find that hard to believe. The way the Earth works in concert with its inhabitants is nothing short of miraculous. The hydrologic cycle that provides water to the plants, the sun that facilitates photosynthesis, the fact that plants use the carbon dioxide that we expel to create the oxygen that we need. How the whole system of plants and animals work together to create this world we live in.

Science today, in my opinion, does not allow for a literal translation of what the bible tells us. That being said, it is not prudent to dismiss it completely. I, personally, have a hard time believing that something as intricate as what I described above just ‘happened ‘. I believe it had to have been created by an intelligent being. This is why they call belief in God ‘faith’.

My two cents.

MACS wrote:

You guys are looking at the "miraculous" from the inside. It gives you a warped perspective and makes you think of it as the only possible way it could occur.

victor809 wrote:

Wheel when arguing a point rational thought is needed.

First off you lack the basic concept that creationionism and evolution are mutually exclusive. Second by arguing that intelligent design proves creationism is valid does not prove that intelligenct design exists. Finally you ignore all of the scientific evidence supporting evolution and debunking creationism.

gryphonms wrote:

I typed out a response to this thread twice yesterday. I sent neither, for it either rambled on or it didn't convey my point sufficiently.
Now MACS has summed up my thoughts with such specificity that we need to question if it is not....
an Independence Day Miracle!!

Great minds think alike.

And apparently, so do ours.

tailgater wrote:

I think that one of big problems when discussing Evolution vs. Creationism is that they are each in two different fields of study. You have a better chance of explaining LOVE using mathematics then you do explaining creationism using science. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote: