elRopo
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Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:44:40 PM
can anyone shed some light on the DE / JDN alliance or non alliance whatever the case may be? I read sometime ago that DE was handling the marketing of JDN products but a falling-out ensued and they were no longer affiliated. I still see them advertised on facing pages in the latest catalog offering freebies of both brands with a box purchase of either. It would seem they've buried the hatchet?
TIGERCDW
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:47:05 PM
SWISHER SWEETS

TIGER

danmdevries
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:57:03 PM
No idea.

But I'm really loving the Joya Red

elRopo
  • elRopo
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Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:57:30 PM

SWISHER SWEETS

TIGER

TIGERCDW wrote:

I see. So, Swisher owns BOTH brands? Well, that sucks.

dstieger
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:57:32 PM
TG and others can enlighten far better than I....however, in my mind, it was simply DE acting as a distribution vehicle for JdN - and little else. I'm not aware of any collaboration on blending, creation, production, etc. So....assuming that was true, I ignored the partnership entirely, believing it meant nothing to me, the consumer.
delta1
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:59:24 PM
Swisher bought Drew Estates last year, severing their marketing and distribution alliance with JdN.
dstieger
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:59:47 PM

I see. So, Swisher owns BOTH brands? Well, that sucks.

elRopo wrote:

That's an entirely different discussion.

http://pr.swisher.com/press.html 

TONS of debate on just what that means....99% of it from people who know little about the details or background

delta1
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:05:27 PM
Joya de Nicaragua was not bought by Swisher....but I'm part of dstieger's 99%
danmdevries
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:08:25 PM
Didn't the MUWAT line come out as a collaborative effort between JDN and DE?
sd72
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:08:31 PM
anyone try the wood tipped L40?
sd72
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:09:44 PM
Muwat is subculture studios which is/was a jdn/de thingy
danmdevries
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:12:26 PM

anyone try the wood tipped L40?

sd72 wrote:

Haha. Buddy of mine lit a tipped cigar at the track over the weekend. I always give him a good smoke at the track, he said he didn't want to ask/impose. So I told him id give him a premium swisher, and brought him a t52. He was a lil confused

danmdevries
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:13:46 PM

Muwat is subculture studios which is/was a jdn/de thingy

sd72 wrote:

Is it still a collaborative project? Or does DE own it all now?

Not that it matters, just curious.

dstieger
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:16:43 PM

Joya de Nicaragua was not bought by Swisher....but I'm part of dstieger's 99%

delta1 wrote:

You've already shown value in the 'analysis' here and proved you're closer the the 90th percentile

I was mostly (backhandedly) referring to those that want to trash the relationship and either DE or Swisher or DE/Swisher just because it involves DE (or Swisher).....

I'm not about to stand here and claim it is/will be good for LP cigars...however, I'm not about to trash anyone and say that LP is just months away from being a Swisher Sweet, either.

delta1
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:24:50 PM
Sorta like: don't judge a book by its cover...or a cigar by its owner? Read/smoke first...
Puffnstuff79
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:29:03 PM
Most confusing thing I've seen since the Wombats sex change operation. Somehow he became a he. Nobody right figured that one out from the gets but we all presume it is something unsevered from birth. It turns out the littler nubby was actually a potrusion from the outty button of the belly. What a great waste of human flesh it was (the whole of the bloke not just the misplaced foreskin I presume).

Should I lol at this turn of events or just shutter in agony and pray a man a grand recovery as he joins the list of the brave Americans that overshadow our troops with the valor and dignity intact as they hit a midlife crisis and assume the surgical position rather than buying a new sports car and lying near incestually with a young rosy sweet breathed broad in an awkward attempt at remaking a scene from American Beauty.

dstieger
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:30:58 PM

Most confusing thing I've seen since the Wombats sex change operation. Somehow he became a he. Nobody right figured that one out from the gets but we all presume it is something unsevered from birth. It turns out the littler nubby was actually a potrusion from the outty button of the belly. What a great waste of human flesh it was (the whole of the bloke not just the misplaced foreskin I presume).

Should I lol at this turn of events or just shutter in agony and pray a man a grand recovery as he joins the list of the brave Americans that overshadow our troops with the valor and dignity intact as they hit a midlife crisis and assume the surgical position rather than buying a new sports car and lying near incestually with a young rosy sweet breathed broad in an awkward attempt at remaking a scene from American Beauty.

Puffnstuff79 wrote:

Poor Jonathon....I had NO idea

delta1
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:31:09 PM
lol...smh
shaun341
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:01:51 PM
I don't know how the JDN and MUWAT brands worked out in the deal between DE and Swisher. What I do know is that JD is a person I choose not to respect as a human being. I have some DE stuff in my wineador but will never spend another dime on any of his lines. With my money that I work very hard for the little I earn I must respect the person I am making wealthy with where I spend it and that man deserves none. Sorry JDN and the other lines that DE handled distribution for but since I don't know how the Swisher buyout worked for all parties I have not bought any lines associated since.
danmdevries
Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:12:27 PM
Can't say I'll boycott, but i agree with your statement.

Never did buy huge amounts of DE, some bait fish and HE on auction here n there. If they stay unchanged, and I can still get for half price, I'll still buy.

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