tailgater
10 years ago
Let's say Cruz becomes POTUS.
And a few years in he decides to make "Common Sense" restrictions in regards to abortion.
A bipartisan congress deny's him, so he creates a series of executive orders to make it happen.

To all those applauding Obama on his gun plan, be careful what you wish for.


gummy jones
10 years ago
although i dont wish for any of those things that was my point exactly

dangerous precedents are great when you agree with them but when the pendulum swings...
DrafterX
10 years ago
Then the mere consciousness of existence, without thought – a condition which lasted long. Then, very suddenly, thought, and shuddering terror, and earnest endeavor to comprehend my true state... [MELLOW]
teedubbya
10 years ago
That already did happen (sans the cruz part) and then the orders were repealed. It happens every change in administration. Business as usual.

I agree though. I always got a kick out of the line item veto push when republicans are in office (Big during Reagan) and crickets when dems are in. Why not have a bipartisan effort to give Obammy the line item veto?

It's fun to see proponents of the line item veto (extending executive power) go ape**** over EOs. Watch what you wish for because next time you may not be the folks in power.

This is nothing new. On the bright side there isn't much time left in office and every EO can be rolled back on day 1. Clinton crammed a bunch of EOs and Regs through 11th hour and Bush rolled them back immediately. I always questioned the legality of what he did with managed care regs but he did it and it was done LOL. The reality is it worked.
teedubbya
10 years ago
Here is one example

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President-elect Barack Obama is considering issuing an executive order to reverse a controversial Bush administration abortion policy in his first week in office, three Democratic sources said Monday.

Obama's second full day as president falls on the 36th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion in the United States.

The sources said Obama may use the occasion to reverse the "Mexico City policy" reinstated in 2001 by Bush that prohibits U.S. money from funding international family planning groups that promote abortion or provide information, counseling or referrals about abortion services. It bans any organization receiving family planning funds from the U.S. Agency for International Development from offering abortions or abortion counseling.

The "Mexico City policy," commonly referred to by critics as "the global gag rule," was devised by President Ronald Reagan in 1984 at a population conference in Mexico City.

President Bill Clinton lifted the ban in January 1993 as one of his first acts as president, but President George W. Bush reinstated it in his first executive order on January 22, 2001, the 28th anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

At the time, critics -- including Planned Parenthood -- called the move a "legislative ambush."

Bush defended the action, saying then: "It is my conviction that taxpayer funds should not be used to pay for abortion or actively promote abortion." E-mail to a friend
tonygraz
10 years ago

Let's say Cruz becomes POTUS.
And a few years in he decides to make "Common Sense" restrictions in regards to abortion.
A bipartisan congress deny's him, so he creates a series of executive orders to make it happen.

To all those applauding Obama on his gun plan, be careful what you wish for.


tailgater wrote:



So, do you have many doomsday thoughts ?
DrMaddVibe
10 years ago

Let's say Cruz becomes POTUS.

tailgater wrote:




That's as far as I could handle. Sorry.
tailgater
10 years ago

So, do you have many doomsday thoughts ?

tonygraz wrote:



Restrictions on abortions = doomsday?

If you're going to sit at the adult table, please at least act like you belong.
Brewha
10 years ago

Let's say Cruz becomes POTUS.
And a few years in he decides to make "Common Sense" restrictions in regards to abortion.
A bipartisan congress deny's him, so he creates a series of executive orders to make it happen.

To all those applauding Obama on his gun plan, be careful what you wish for.


tailgater wrote:


You mean like recently when Texas governor Greg Abbott shut down most all of the abortion clinics?
Speyside
10 years ago
Thought this would be about John Lennon.
Brewha
10 years ago

Thought this would be about John Lennon.

Speyside wrote:


He did a great job as Felix in the Odd Couple.
Speyside
10 years ago
If you say so Emily.
tailgater
10 years ago

If you say so Emily.

Speyside wrote:



I saw her play.
tailgater
10 years ago

You mean like recently when Texas governor Greg Abbott shut down most all of the abortion clinics?

Brewha wrote:



OK.
For those who are challenged with an inability to comprehend reasoning:
The point is we can't embrace an executive order simply because we agree with it.


Now, if you'd like to talk specifics, I find it odd that the same group who supports the killing of millions as a "choice" are somehow against the "choice" to own a weapon regardless of the intent.

Here's a stat:
100% of aborted babies are dead.
I don't think most guns have that kind of statistic. You should snopes it.



DrafterX
10 years ago
does that include shotguns..?? 😕
DrafterX
10 years ago
I was just thinking about how much more damage a 12 gauge shotgun slug would do compared to a 223 rd.... 🤔


but it's OK to own a shotgun... 😟

Ever see what even bird shot will do to a watermelon..?? 😕
tonygraz
10 years ago

Restrictions on abortions = doomsday?

If you're going to sit at the adult table, please at least act like you belong.

tailgater wrote:



I don't want to deflate you, but I didn't think you were actually sitting at an adult table. You should try putting first things first- like president Cruz = doomsday.

tonygraz
10 years ago

I was just thinking about how much more damage a 12 gauge shotgun slug would do compared to a 223 rd.... 🤔


but it's OK to own a shotgun... 😟

Ever see what even bird shot will do to a watermelon..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:




I saw what a test .223 round did to put a hole through 8" of steel.
DrafterX
10 years ago
tailgater
10 years ago

I don't want to deflate you, but I didn't think you were actually sitting at an adult table. You should try putting first things first- like president Cruz = doomsday.

tonygraz wrote:



Further proof that you miss the point.
Substitute President Rubio. Or Bush III.

And I wasn't sitting at the adult table. I was being served on the couch while watching football.
Try to keep up.


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