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Stinkdyr
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10 years ago

#21

It is a lack of diversity that CAN be a problem.

But on to the chase - Tell us, oh wise Stikdyr, how to end "welfare breeding".

And while you at it, how do we end coproprate welfare?
The growing wage gap?
Concentration of wealth?

Let me just guess - cutting welfare = equal wealth for Americans...😂

Brewha wrote:

There are various ways to discourage welfare breeding, that will be for future discussion. The how is not as important as the decision to do it. Corporate welfare should be ended too. Along with any gubment subsidies.

I do not have opinions about your other topics.

[hug]

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#22

Stinkdyr wrote:

Dude - You could be Trump.....

Gene363
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10 years ago

#23

Perhaps I am missing something, is there an upside to pumping out generation after generation of welfare children into broken families with low potential? Is that considered a privilege for folks on the government plantation?

I don't really care what people do themselves, I just don't want to underwrite their activities or have people suffering from the increased crime that occurs around government sponsored slums.

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DrafterX
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10 years ago

#24

them are votes... 😟

Buckwheat
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10 years ago

#25

I prefer echo chambers. That's where the most solid ideas arise.

teedubbya wrote:

I would prefer a good slap back echo (think The Who Live at Leeds). Anyone who comes up with something stupid is automatically slapped back. 🐴

DrMaddVibe
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10 years ago

#26

Forced diversity... is that like telling me I have to sell my house to a minority..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

The military is a mixed bag towards diversity...one day they're against it...the next they're for separate but the same and then they want full inclusion but with bias to make it a catch up game.

I understand why they are in the business of diversity though. At the crux of it all its about bodies. The ol sausage grinder needs bodies for the war machine...kinda like the scene in Pink Floyd's "The Wall" where they're all walking through the process only to find out they're just meat.

They don't have a need for division on the battlefield. You have an order, you follow it. No bias. No preconceived ideas. Don't? Yeah...nobody wants to be that person or find out how miserable theyll make your life. Just like there's no crying in baseball...you do what you're told. Lawfully.

The part that bothered me and I couldn't make it a career (there were a few other reasons but they were directed towards me and my family though!) is because of the "catching up" part. I held a job with cutoff scores locked at 999. It didn't matter that I was already what they called an "Acting Jack" wearing stripes, doing the job but not getting the pay as Sgt.. Went to advancement classes, kept my scores all high in most cases maxing them out. The only time they lowered it to 799, I didn't see a white soldier get the promotion. they deserved it but only because of color? No. I asked around at other bases too...same thing. I'm not saying not a single white guy got promoted...I couldn't find them, but I could point to those that I saw get them So, you see they will harbor discrimination when it fits their design, but for all rights and purposes the military is the "Social Experimentation Department" of America.

Edited by user 10 years ago | Reason: Not specified

dstieger
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

10 years ago

#27

DMV, I know absolutely nothing about the position, nor the candidates considered....just devil advocating a little...

.but, I can easily conceive of a position/situation in which a 'score' (no matter how hard it tries to be objective) means much less to potential success than, say personality....or emotional stability....or even some consideration that if the subordinate body is 'mixed', than a homogeneous leadership body might be less successful.

I've come to consider that quotas aren't inherently 'bad', if only because past and existing measures for promotion may not be best case for future success of an organization. Some of the finest leaders I've ever had the honor of working with or for had checkered pasts and little book smarts....on the other hand, we promote a lot of incredible test-takers who make miserable leaders.

So, even if the measures used are VERY objective...and all the leading candidates for managing positions of a mixed bag organization are of a single race/sex/religion/nationality....etc; the organization may falter due to biases that will inevitably affect even the most open-minded homogeneous group of leaders

Brewha
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10 years ago

#28

Gene363 wrote:

So you are for Planned Parenthood, birth control and abortions?

Stinkdyr
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10 years ago

#29

So you are for Planned Parenthood, birth control and abortions?

Brewha wrote:

Brewha is in favor of eugenics.

🇨🇮

Speyside
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#30

Brewha, for me that would be yes, I believe in women's rights.

dstieger
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10 years ago

#31

So you are for Planned Parenthood, birth control and abortions?

Brewha wrote:

random thought...if we truly had widespread planned parenthood, we wouldn't have much need for Planned Parenthood

Gene363
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10 years ago

#32

random thought...if we truly had widespread planned parenthood, we wouldn't have much need for Planned Parenthood

dstieger wrote:

Exactly, not to derail the diversity discussion to abortion, but WTF is the reason people cannot use birth control? There are multiple methods and they are effective. If the abortion advocates spent as much time promoting birth control there wouldn't be a need for so many abortions. Hummm 🤦

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Gene363
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10 years ago

#33

So you are for Planned Parenthood, birth control and abortions?

Brewha wrote:

See post 32

I don't care how many kids they have, it will be self limiting if they are not paid for by the taxpayer. FWIW, I'm for birth control, just like crime, prevention is better than punishment.

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Brewha
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10 years ago

#34

Gene363 wrote:

Man - I wish I thought it were as easy as you make it sound.

But I do agree with your premise.

Brewha
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10 years ago

#35

Brewha, for me that would be yes, I believe in women's rights.

Speyside wrote:

It is an irony of our culture that the loudest voices against the various type of birth control are often the same voices that do not want to support the unwanted children.

Speyside
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10 years ago

#36

Where did I say anything about not supporting unwanted children? My POV is to help those that cannot help themselves.

teedubbya
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10 years ago

#37

planned parenthood does teach and provide birth control.... which is why the republicans tied defunding it to funding attempts to controll the zika virus in puerto rico LOL. they want more tiny headed peeps.

it just makes sense that at a time a disease is shrinking baby heads we don't want to be preventing babys and stuff.

Brewha
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10 years ago

#38

Where did I say anything about not supporting unwanted children? My POV is to help those that cannot help themselves.

Speyside wrote:

I was not referring to you Speyside.....

I was just waxing philosophical - and stuff....

dstieger
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

10 years ago

#39

it just makes sense that at a time a disease is shrinking baby heads we don't want to be preventing babys and stuff.

teedubbya wrote:

miniature baby heads is the preferred outcome?

Brewha
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10 years ago

#40

teedubbya wrote:

So, your saying zika will make more Republican babies?

Wow - that's cruel...

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