TMCTLT
10 years ago

**** obamma

mikey1597 wrote:





THIS^^^^^^x100
Brewha
10 years ago

Are you saying Brownie didn't do a good job ?

tonygraz wrote:


Who you callin' a brownie sucker???
teedubbya
10 years ago
I never understood the demand for s visit mentality when infrastructure is compromised. So you want to bring the traveling circus of a presidential visit and lay it on top of the already existing chaos and lack of resources. Anyone ever involved in the planning and implementation of a Presidential visit would say other than optics or pure politics it does more harm than good in that situation.

Once again. Meh
DrafterX
10 years ago
meh here too.... they ruined the whole President visiting thing when they laughed at Bush.... FEMA's there and stuff... people will get taken care of in time... 😟
Gene363
10 years ago

I never understood the demand for s visit mentality when infrastructure is compromised. So you want to bring the traveling circus of a presidential visit and lay it on top of the already existing chaos and lack of resources. Anyone ever involved in the planning and implementation of a Presidential visit would say other than optics or pure politics it does more harm than good in that situation.

Once again. Meh

teedubbya wrote:



Yes and no, being a leader means recognizing people are suffering, it's symbolic and uplifting to victims.

In the radio interview with the Louisiana newspaper editor that called out Obama he recalled a similar situation during the LBJ administration. The governor called LBJ who said he would send his best man. The governor said no, we need you here. LBJ showed up at a shelter with no electricity, shined a flashlight on his face and said he was their President and there to give them whatever help he could.

Even GWB did it standing with the rescue workers in the ruins of the World Trade Center.
DrafterX
10 years ago
well, I guess Bush being there wasn't too big of deal for him... since he was already there blowing up the levees and stuff... 😟
Gene363
10 years ago

well, I guess Bush being there wasn't too big of deal for him... since he was already there blowing up the levees and stuff... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



It would have been worse, but he had a crappy cigar lighter filled with generic unfiltered butane. 🍺
teedubbya
10 years ago

Yes and no, being a leader means recognizing people are suffering, it's symbolic and uplifting to victims.

In the radio interview with the Louisiana newspaper editor that called out Obama he recalled a similar situation during the LBJ administration. The governor called LBJ who said he would send his best man. The governor said no, we need you here. LBJ showed up at a shelter with no electricity, shined a flashlight on his face and said he was their President and there to give them whatever help he could.

Even GWB did it standing with the rescue workers in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

Gene363 wrote:




I agree on the optics and politics of it. Its a double edged sword though. You do it and everyone says it was a photo op and the burden accompanying the visit made things worse. You don't and you get this. It doesn't matter which party.

Frankly the President could do nothing but travel to where there is disaster or tragedy if you want.

I land on go to the State, not necessarily "ground zero" and make your political promises etc.... at a minimum sit in the WH and talk to the nation. We've seen neither in my mind. I'm not big on having the traveling zoo complicate recovery efforts and to be honest I'm not big in to the I feel your pain or nice job brownie politics.
Gene363
10 years ago

I agree on the optics and politics of it. Its a double edged sword though. You do it and everyone says it was a photo op and the burden accompanying the visit made things worse. You don't and you get this. It doesn't matter which party.

Frankly the President could do nothing but travel to where there is disaster or tragedy if you want.

I land on go to the State, not necessarily "ground zero" and make your political promises etc.... at a minimum sit in the WH and talk to the nation. We've seen neither in my mind. I'm not big on having the traveling zoo complicate recovery efforts and to be honest I'm not big in to the I feel your pain or nice job brownie politics.

teedubbya wrote:



For me it more important to help those in need, than to feed the media machine. I guarantee those people in that shelter visited by LBJ are still talking about LBJ's visit as are the soldiers that saw Air Force One land in Iraq with GWB. I'm not a huge fan of either past President, but they did have a better understanding about leadership and the duty of being the POTUS.

On the logic side I agree with you, though I'm sure all the FEMA workers would notice the emphasis of a Presidential visit.
teedubbya
10 years ago
maybe so. I'm just still stunned by what it takes to arrange and be a part of one of these visits. I've said before I was on stage with GWB and the interference to all things around the visit is hard to overstate
teedubbya
10 years ago
a fly over while gazing out the window in angst seems to work
DrafterX
10 years ago
I guess if he was doing anything else but playing golf this week it wouldn't look so bad... he could at least get on tv and say 'Hey ya'll.. weather's great here'... 😟
TMCTLT
10 years ago

I guess if he was doing anything else but playing golf this week it wouldn't look so bad... he could at least get on tv and say 'Hey ya'll.. weather's great here'... 😟

DrafterX wrote:




Yupper
Gene363
10 years ago

I guess if he was doing anything else but playing golf this week it wouldn't look so bad... he could at least get on tv and say 'Hey ya'll.. weather's great here'... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



+2
Gene363
10 years ago

maybe so. I'm just still stunned by what it takes to arrange and be a part of one of these visits. I've said before I was on stage with GWB and the interference to all things around the visit is hard to overstate

teedubbya wrote:



True, but nothing the POTUS does is ever inexpensive.
tailgater
10 years ago

True, but nothing the POTUS does is ever inexpensive.

Gene363 wrote:



Even his two-bit 'ho wears expensive gowns.

but enough about Moochell...



TMCTLT
10 years ago
Gene363
10 years ago

Even his two-bit 'ho wears expensive gowns.

but enough about Moochell...



tailgater wrote:



Another case of overspending, I'm just saying.
Brewha
10 years ago

Even his two-bit 'ho wears expensive gowns.

but enough about Moochell...



tailgater wrote:


You'er a class act Tail.

Less the cl.....
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