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MACS
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9 years ago

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/12/double-voting-even-triple-voting-found-in-us-elections.html

Irrespective of party affiliation... something has to be done to prevent this. I know some will say it isn't widespread enough to worry about, but I disagree. Anyone who does this should be found, and prosecuted. Period. Rep, Dem, Ind, I don't care who they voted for. It undermines our entire system and the foundation of our very existence as a country.

We the people. We each get ONE VOTE.

For those crying foul at requiring a government issued ID to vote... how else do you detect and prevent this?

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DrafterX
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9 years ago

racist.. 🤐

Brewha
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9 years ago

Wow, An opinion peice on Fox that enrages people.

Wow - just wow.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2012/11/06/voter-fraud-a-massive-anti-democratic-deception/#4da5667dd564

There - another option piece.

You may rest easy now my freind....

MACS
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9 years ago

Brewha wrote:

A) Not enraged

B) Perhaps you missed the part where I said "irrespective of party affiliation". Which means I don't care what party they claim. They should be prosecuted, and lose their right to vote forever.

C) In a country where "we the people" are supposed to decide by our vote, why would we not have something in place to prevent voter fraud?

It's a crime. A felony, in fact. We should enforce it. Instead of posting some drivel, how about at least attempting to answer the question?

Brewha
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9 years ago

MACS wrote:

Fair enough my freind:

A) My bad. But see it as dramatic license.

B) Did you present any evidence of meaningful crime?

C) We do. Unless you just fee keeping the old an poor from voting is a law we need - many do you know...

victor809
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9 years ago

MACS.. They are prosecuted. Your article posts it out.
Additionally, there's clearly a way to check, as people are being caught (few).
More interestingly your own article quotes the "nation's leading election system monitoring group" stating that cases are extremely rare...

Everyone thinks voting fraud is bad and evil. The question is whether we really feel the number of instances is worth having a negative impact on people's ability to vote easily, or worth the cost of implementing controls.

DrafterX
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9 years ago

I don't get why it's such a big deal to present an ID... If you're not smart enough to find a way to get one then maybe you shouldn't be voting... 😟

Brewha
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9 years ago

I don't get why it's such a big deal to present an ID... If you're not smart enough to find a way to get one then maybe you shouldn't be voting... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

That's because your not really looking at the issue.

They are making the poor and elderly go to the trouble of keeping a government ID current every voting cycle.

So you tell me, if your name is on the registered voter list - which you have to be to vote - why is your birth cirtificate not good enough? Or an expired driver license if you happen to be 80 years old and don't drive?

DrafterX
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9 years ago

a birth certificate would still allow someone to vote for you.. I would think any picture ID would be acceptable.. 😟

Brewha
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9 years ago

#10

a birth certificate would still allow someone to vote for you.. I would think any picture ID would be acceptable.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:

So you oppose the new laws?

DrafterX
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9 years ago

#11

not really... Last election I saw an interview with a lady that had voted 3 times.. she was able to vote herself, as her grandmother and an aunt I think... she saw absolutely nothing wrong with what she did... I know it's not common but it happens.. a pic ID would have prevented it... 😟

Brewha
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9 years ago

#12

DrafterX wrote:

So you don't think a birth cirtificate is good enough?

Honestly - you really think voter fraud is a problem? Gerrymandering not an issue that we need a law about - but voter fraud is?

[-(

Burner02
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9 years ago

#13

Simple, no valid approved ID no vote.

victor809
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9 years ago

#14

^typical libtard trying to put in more government regulations.

MACS
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9 years ago

#15

If we do not require ID... how do we catch the fraud? These people had ID. That's how they were caught. How many more have done it and were NOT caught?

I'm not outraged, or enraged. But I believe the number of people who want to vote, but can't because they have no ID... are about as many as you guys think perpetrate voter fraud. Very few.

victor809
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9 years ago

#16

So if voter fraud is few... And people who would be disenfranchised by ID is few... Why would we put a larger mechanism in place and waste taxpayer money?

The big, election changing fraud isn't going to come from a bunch of azzholes voting a couple times. It's going to come from small changes to the voting machines, little adjustments in the counts by a few percentage points, just enough to swing a state one way or another (but waaaayyy higher counts than 149 across the entire nation). People who are worried about fraud should be demanding audits of the voting machines, and examining those. But machines are hard, and complaining about ID is easy.

Hell, ID is going to be obsolete soon enough, the future will be voting through the internet. Why spend time and money on policies which do very little and will be obsolete soon?

Mattie B
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9 years ago

#17

I have no idea how this became a partisan issue. (Well yes I do)

You can't cash a check/govt check without an ID.

In the Sip there are services to pick folks up and drive them to get a valid ID. Multiple ID forms are accepted.

There is no excuse for not having a proper ID!!!

Burner02
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9 years ago

#18

Simple, no valid approved ID no vote.

Burner02 wrote:

This

DrafterX
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9 years ago

#19

Not being able to get an ID is just a lame excuse period.. there's 4 years between elections.. are you going to try to convince me that a person can't get out to get an ID made but will be able to get out to vote..?? 😟

Brewha
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9 years ago

#20

^typical libtard trying to put in more government regulations.

victor809 wrote:

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