teedubbya
9 years ago
Possible yes, and I love my guns. But he went in to a pretty lengthy discussion about active shooter situations (active) and the difficulty of distinguishing between the good guys and bad guys when multiple guns are involved. He distinguished between citizens and law enforcement and acknowledged problems with each especially plain clothed. . He also talked at length about how law enforcement mitigated the issue amongst each other by training together and certain tactics including working in teams rather than solo (they won't go it alone) . Citizens joining the firefight or build up to a potential firefight were problematic to him. He used multiple case files to illustrate.

I didn't get the sense he was anti 2nd amendment, just pragmatic. I'm not even sure he contradicted any pro gun folks. Even when carrying go away from the trouble until you can't. He never suggested not protecting yourself but did state the obvious that the more guns involved in a real time active shooting the more difficult it is for him and his team.
teedubbya
9 years ago
Also even if the perp is dead or bleeding they still don't know if that's the bad guy or a good citizen which is complicated by more guns. That (as you know better than I ) takes some sorting too.

None of this is by any means anti carry. I gots mine lol. It's just reality and some (not you A) just see the rainbows and lollipops with guns.
99cobra2881
9 years ago
Concealed carry has a defensive purpose once you go on the offensive all bets are off.



I like to watch this guys videos. Most are security camera footage that show real world situations, he then breaks them down on what was done correctly and done wrongly.

If anything ever happens my weapon won't be drawn until I am directly confronted by the threat. Practice drawing your weapon folks.
MACS
9 years ago

Tell us Tony. Just how sharp do you believe we are???

Abrignac wrote:



It doesn't matter what he thinks, Anthony. Move along, sir.
Mr. Jones
9 years ago
#7 speyside ^^^

I'm guessing you were never on the
African CONTINENT in the 1970's & 80's to mid 90's?

Freakin' BOY SOLDIERS were the NORM.
THEY HAD NO RESPECT FOR LIFE.
During any "OP" the rule was engage ( preferably surpressed) them first...
"When seen" and drop those little bastids
Where they stood.

Then Ruwanda where the tribes just went krazy
Cookoo on one another...

Russia and China have always HAD BRUTAL
OPPRESSION.
South America, Central America and Mexico...
The locals will off you for $50 bucks or
Whatever is in your wallet and car.

I think what you meant to SAY was
"America has finally morphed into what the rest
Of the world has always been".

It may be a "paradigm shift" here in America
But it's the
"Same old ...same old" in the places mentioned above and many more.
BlackCat13
9 years ago

Just how sharp do you believe we are???

Abrignac wrote:




ever heard of a football bat?
BlackCat13
9 years ago

#7 speyside ^^^

I'm guessing you were never on the
African CONTINENT in the 1970's & 80's to mid 90's?

Freakin' BOY SOLDIERS were the NORM.
THEY HAD NO RESPECT FOR LIFE.
During any "OP" the rule was engage ( preferably surpressed) them first...
"When seen" and drop those little bastids
Where they stood.

Then Ruwanda where the tribes just went krazy
Cookoo on one another...

Russia and China have always HAD BRUTAL
OPPRESSION.
South America, Central America and Mexico...
The locals will off you for $50 bucks or
Whatever is in your wallet and car.

I think what you meant to SAY was
"America has finally morphed into what the rest
Of the world has always been".

It may be a "paradigm shift" here in America
But it's the
"Same old ...same old" in the places mentioned above and many more.

Mr. Jones wrote:



and what is the characteristic of all those **** places? dirty pigs with too much power and gun control. when any society embraces social cannabalism, it never recovers.
tailgater
9 years ago

ever heard of a football bat?

BlackCat13 wrote:



Please don't bring your anal sex toys into this thread.

Speyside
9 years ago
Mr Jones, I did not reference America, and I meant to.
Mr. Jones
9 years ago
Ok^^^
I figured that, but just in case...
teedubbya
9 years ago
I wonder if this ever happens in the Czech Republic
opelmanta1900
9 years ago
I doubt it... I don't think they even have online cigar forums in the czech republic...
teedubbya
9 years ago
BlackCat13
9 years ago

Please don't bring your anal sex toys into this thread.

tailgater wrote:




see? they're all pederasts.
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