Brewha
  • Brewha
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9 years ago
With so many on the forum that disagree that industrial emissions are a cause of climate change - or that climate change even exists - I point out that over 100 countries are coming together to combat it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement 

Does anyone have a reasonable explanation why we should not be moving forward with initiatives to curb climate change?




Paris Agreement: essential elements

The Paris Agreement builds upon the Convention and – for the first time – brings all nations into a common cause to undertake take ambitious efforts to combat climate change and adapt to its effects, with enhanced support to assist developing countries to do so. As such, it charts a new course in the global climate effort.

The Paris Agreement’s central aim is to strengthen the global response to the threat of climate change by keeping a global temperature rise this century well below 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase even further to 1.5 degrees Celsius. Additionally, the agreement aims to strengthen the ability of countries to deal with the impacts of climate change. To reach these ambitious goals, appropriate financial flows, a new technology framework and an enhanced capacity building framework will be put in place, thus supporting action by developing countries and the most vulnerable countries, in line with their own national objectives. The Agreement also provides for enhanced transparency of action and support through a more robust transparency framework.
Covfireman
9 years ago
The agreement isn't strong enough on the pouting countries and to strict on the developed countries . It's poorly crafted and doesn't change what those countries do . Unless Asia ,india, Latin America and the middle east are encouraged to pollute less why should devolved contrived do more ? If we need to do more why cripple industries here and let goods produced cheaper solely because they were made without environmental controls . Why punish Americans for someone else's pollution?

The only way to fix this is to tax those cheap goods produced from those countries. That will make them less affordable and then goods produced here will be competitive. We can't compete when we are the only ones playing by the rules . It's not a painless solution . Almost everything we buy would increase in price .



TMCTLT
9 years ago

With so many on the forum that disagree that industrial emissions are a cause of climate change - or that climate change even exists - I point out that over 100 countries are coming together to combat it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement 

Does anyone have a reasonable explanation why we should not be moving forward with initiatives to curb climate change?




Paris Agreement: essential elements

The Paris Agreement builds upon the Convention and – for the first time – brings all nations into a common cause to undertake take ambitious efforts to combat climate change and adapt to its effects, with enhanced support to assist developing countries to do so. As such, it charts a new course in the global climate effort.

The Paris Agreement’s central aim is to strengthen the global response to the threat of climate change by keeping a global temperature rise this century well below 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase even further to 1.5 degrees Celsius. Additionally, the agreement aims to strengthen the ability of countries to deal with the impacts of climate change. To reach these ambitious goals, appropriate financial flows, a new technology framework and an enhanced capacity building framework will be put in place, thus supporting action by developing countries and the most vulnerable countries, in line with their own national objectives. The Agreement also provides for enhanced transparency of action and support through a more robust transparency framework.

Brewha wrote:




Let us know when you get the REAL OFFENDERS to comply....

And can one ASSume that the highlighted area means " financial support once again from the U.S. ????
Mr. Jones
9 years ago
I wrote a huge response and LOST it on my cheap
P.O.S. LG SMART PHONE:

Condensed version.

Global warming is real but a combination of
Dozens of things combined.
We will never stop it in a unchecked industrialized world and unchecked overpopulation.

Short of a worldwide EPIDEMIC like "the plague"
that takes out 3/4's
Of the Current population...global warming will
Continue.

The ILLUMINATI have studied eugenics for decades
And they are working from several angles to achieve
Depopulation...
That NERD BILL GATE'S is behind the bad vaccines
Going to the Third World test subjects.
Monsanto and DUPONT have developed a GMO FOOD GENE That effectively sterilizes anybody who eats it.
The military are experts at chemtrail dispersal
And the H.A.A.R.P. RADAR in Alaska is really screwing with the climate and weather patterns.

Whoever erected those weird stone monoliths
In GEORGIA ( TED TURNER) is behind all this
Depopulation.
tailgater
9 years ago

I wrote a huge response and LOST it on my cheap
P.O.S. LG SMART PHONE:

Condensed version.

Global warming is real but a combination of
Dozens of things combined.
We will never stop it in a unchecked industrialized world and unchecked overpopulation.

Short of a worldwide EPIDEMIC like "the plague"
that takes out 3/4's
Of the Current population...global warming will
Continue.

The ILLUMINATI have studied eugenics for decades
And they are working from several angles to achieve
Depopulation...
That NERD BILL GATE'S is behind the bad vaccines
Going to the Third World test subjects.
Monsanto and DUPONT have developed a GMO FOOD GENE That effectively sterilizes anybody who eats it.
The military are experts at chemtrail dispersal
And the H.A.A.R.P. RADAR in Alaska is really screwing with the climate and weather patterns.

Whoever erected those weird stone monoliths
In GEORGIA ( TED TURNER) is behind all this
Depopulation.

Mr. Jones wrote:



😲
tailgater
9 years ago

With so many on the forum that disagree that industrial emissions are a cause of climate change - or that climate change even exists - I point out that over 100 countries are coming together to combat it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement 

Does anyone have a reasonable explanation why we should not be moving forward with initiatives to curb climate change?


Brewha wrote:



How disingenuous can you get?
I read these same forums and I haven't concluded that "so many" here feel industrial emissions aren't "a" cause.
And it is my opinion that when you hear someone question the existence of climate change, they are questioning the unspoken "man made" prefix.

Brewha
  • Brewha
  • Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter
9 years ago

Let us know when you get the REAL OFFENDERS to comply....

And can one ASSume that the highlighted area means " financial support once again from the U.S. ????

TMCTLT wrote:


Well, on the list China has the largest reductions (20%) scheduled.

The text is a cut and past from the UN web site. But you know the story with the UN....
Brewha
  • Brewha
  • Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter
9 years ago

How disingenuous can you get?
I read these same forums and I haven't concluded that "so many" here feel industrial emissions aren't "a" cause.
And it is my opinion that when you hear someone question the existence of climate change, they are questioning the unspoken "man made" prefix.

tailgater wrote:


Disingenuous???

You should do your research:
https://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/627599/Is-Global-Warming-Real 

65% of the forum counts as "so many".
tailgater
9 years ago

Disingenuous???

You should do your research:
https://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/627599/Is-Global-Warming-Real 

65% of the forum counts as "so many".

Brewha wrote:



Don't have time to tally the votes.
I'll trust you on this one.
You're saying that 65% of those who posted in that thread believe there is zero climate change and man has zero influence on climate.
Am I reading you right?

Because I didn't think over half felt man had zero influence and that there has been zero climate change to begin with.

The "debate" on climate change is so polarized because one side doesn't even allow for discussion.
The words "settled" and "consensus" are thrown around somewhat loosely, and there is often a severe lack of understanding. When someone says "the climate change myth" that doesn't imply that man has zero influence. Just that the influence can be over stated, and "man made" should not mean "fossil fuels" until we're able to calculate this specific influence relative to our other man made influences.








victor809
9 years ago
Just gonna say, I really appreciate your sense of humor tail...

That's serious Kauffman- esque joking... complaining about "one side not even allowing for discussion " then pretending the phrase "climate change myth" is some sort of nuanced statement...

It's great. I know you must have done that on purpose. There's no way you could have been serious about that...
Brewha
  • Brewha
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9 years ago

Don't have time to tally the votes.
I'll trust you on this one.
You're saying that 65% of those who posted in that thread believe there is zero climate change and man has zero influence on climate.
Am I reading you right?

Because I didn't think over half felt man had zero influence and that there has been zero climate change to begin with.

The "debate" on climate change is so polarized because one side doesn't even allow for discussion.
The words "settled" and "consensus" are thrown around somewhat loosely, and there is often a severe lack of understanding. When someone says "the climate change myth" that doesn't imply that man has zero influence. Just that the influence can be over stated, and "man made" should not mean "fossil fuels" until we're able to calculate this specific influence relative to our other man made influences.

tailgater wrote:


Well, should you find time to click the link you will see that the thread has a pole and the numbers are tallied for us. The upshot of which is that 54% of the forum - ostensibly - feel that even if climate change is real, it is not caused by man. And 11% don't think it is happening, at all. Other then in the minds of the libtards, that is.

Of cource the point of this (genuinely) is to have a dialog.

Is Climate Change a Global Conspiracy? Are over 100 nations banding together to convince us all to......bolster the bicycle industry?

If emissions are not really the problem, why focus on it?

DrafterX
9 years ago
I didn't vote... 😟
dkeage
9 years ago

I didn't vote... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


Thanks Kaepernick...
DrafterX
9 years ago
😱


I meant the climate change thread vote thing... I did my duty... 😟
mikey1597
9 years ago
I just farted,,, my little contribution to the climate change.



You're welcome
DrafterX
9 years ago
Did you pay taxes on that..?? 😕
mikey1597
9 years ago
frankj1
9 years ago
is it in a jar?
cuz I heard they're bombing MACS.
DrafterX
9 years ago
I didn't hear about that... we're bombing Macs..?? 😕
tonygraz
9 years ago
With fart jars ?
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