teedubbya
9 years ago
I don't really get the importance of the press conference anyway. Predictable questions and predictable answers. Trump chided hill dog for going so long with out them and they did the same in return.

eff it. Just go to work, do what you will and let the chips fall where they will. Then the next election cycle will sort through things.

For the record I don't think he has to completely divest and am not sure he really can given his company and best product IS his name. I also don't care if he hires his entire family if they are smart and do a good job.
delta1
9 years ago

Imma let Don and Eric run the company and I told them they shouldn't talk to me about it......

dstieger wrote:



lol, that was my takeaway...
Abrignac
9 years ago

Yeah...I fully appreciate that there are probably laws or constitutional interpretations that allow him to do nothing....I just find his dismissive, almost condescending manner pretty distasteful. Same feeling I had when he mocked the reporter asking about tax returns.....the boorishness probably worked well for him as a business executive....as my Commander in Chief/President, I'm not impressed

dstieger wrote:




No disrespect intended, but I just don't get the obsession. He's not the first wealthy President. Nor will he be the first President to not completely walk away from his holdings.

We aren't talking about a few million in stocks and bonds. The man is the face of a multi-billion, multi-national, privately owned concern. Unlike holdings of publicly traded corporate stock positions you don't simply sell call your broker on Monday morning and tell him to liquidate your portfolio and wirefunds to the blind trust trustee by close of business.

Basically, he has a couple of options with some nuances. He can seek out a buyer to sell the entire Trump organization. That buyer will want an outside forensic audit. Perhaps someone here will see this post and save him the next 10 years looking for a suitable buyer and negotiating a sale price. Not to mention surely years of litigation regarding associated businesses attempting to get out of contracts due to the financial uncertainty.

Since it may take sometime to do the above, he could sell it piecemeal. Good luck with that. There will certainly be people who want the gems, not so much other divisions. The contracts related to those non-gems will then be litigated regarding fiduciary claims. Another decade long proposal.

At the end of the day, it's impossible to do this in a short time frame. It is naive to believe it can be done and nothing more than inflammatory to expect otherwise.
burnem2
9 years ago
[quote=Mr. Jones]

CHUCK TODD IS 😢 CRYING LIKE A "YELLOW VITAMIN D&E& IRON DEFICIENT NEWBORN"



OMG!! This is too funny!!

Mr. Jones
9 years ago
#22 delta 1

You forgot

" the deeeese...deeeeem ..and doooooose
Two vunder-KINDT's uhhh mines'...Tweedle dee and
Tweedle dumb will ahhhh, takes overs'...yea...that's right ...they bees'
Taken overs'....yaaaa seeees'???
I'm " FROGGY"...yea...dats' right...FROGGY!!!
The cartoon Frog with a cigar and mobster hat"
dstieger
9 years ago

No disrespect intended, but I just don't get the obsession.

Abrignac wrote:




Long ways from an obsession.....but, I'm just as puzzled by those that dismiss the idea that there's a lot of potential for conflict of interest...or that any conflict of interest is of no consequence.

If he's in agreement with you about fiduciary responsibilities...even the tiniest bit...then every single decision he makes as chief executive can be viewed through that prism and questioned...

Was his approach to China on (trade, Taiwan, coral rocks, you name it....) influenced (at all) by holdings in China? or by debt held by Chinese banks? or....by some unknown real estate proposal????

Did the steel lobby throttle back on some noisy action because the companies they represent can expect some sort of sweetheart tax or trade deal down the road....or by an administration promise to threaten states or nations...or maybe a promise to use US Steel products in future Trump projects????

Unlikely? IDK...fact is, we won't ever know...but I do know that perception is every bit as important as reality....usually moreso....and controlling perception would be a lot easier if we thought we could understand that Trump or Trump Inc. isn't likely to benefit directly from his decisions....

DrafterX
9 years ago
I think it was ok for Pelosi to do that kinda stuff... must not be that big of deal.. 😟
teedubbya
9 years ago

I think it was ok for Pelosi to do that kinda stuff... must not be that big of deal.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:




yea so we shouldn't pay any attention to trump because other people have done stuff and stuff hillary, obammy, blah blah blah
DrafterX
9 years ago
It used to be the norm.... I must not've gotten the memo... 😟
TMCTLT
9 years ago


I thought his tax attorney did a very good job of explaining how they took many steps ( some not even necessary by law ) to satisfy those who are MORE concerned with " perception " so there's NO concern of Trump using the Office of POTUS to further his private interests.
Abrignac
9 years ago

Long ways from an obsession.....but, I'm just as puzzled by those that dismiss the idea that there's a lot of potential for conflict of interest...or that any conflict of interest is of no consequence.

If he's in agreement with you about fiduciary responsibilities...even the tiniest bit...then every single decision he makes as chief executive can be viewed through that prism and questioned...

Was his approach to China on (trade, Taiwan, coral rocks, you name it....) influenced (at all) by holdings in China? or by debt held by Chinese banks? or....by some unknown real estate proposal????

Did the steel lobby throttle back on some noisy action because the companies they represent can expect some sort of sweetheart tax or trade deal down the road....or by an administration promise to threaten states or nations...or maybe a promise to use US Steel products in future Trump projects????

Unlikely? IDK...fact is, we won't ever know...but I do know that perception is every bit as important as reality....usually moreso....and controlling perception would be a lot easier if we thought we could understand that Trump or Trump Inc. isn't likely to benefit directly from his decisions....

dstieger wrote:




This was known before the election. He was elected. It's old news. Time to move forward. It's like boinking the fat chick then being pissed you did. It's a done deal.
dstieger
9 years ago

This was known before the election. I was elected. It's old news. Time to move forward. It's like boinking the fat chick then being pissed you did. It's a done deal.

Abrignac wrote:



I didn't count the characters, but I think that you've channeled TrumpTweet beautifully....
tailgater
9 years ago

Long ways from an obsession.....but, I'm just as puzzled by those that dismiss the idea that there's a lot of potential for conflict of interest...or that any conflict of interest is of no consequence.

If he's in agreement with you about fiduciary responsibilities...even the tiniest bit...then every single decision he makes as chief executive can be viewed through that prism and questioned...

Was his approach to China on (trade, Taiwan, coral rocks, you name it....) influenced (at all) by holdings in China? or by debt held by Chinese banks? or....by some unknown real estate proposal????

Did the steel lobby throttle back on some noisy action because the companies they represent can expect some sort of sweetheart tax or trade deal down the road....or by an administration promise to threaten states or nations...or maybe a promise to use US Steel products in future Trump projects????

Unlikely? IDK...fact is, we won't ever know...but I do know that perception is every bit as important as reality....usually moreso....and controlling perception would be a lot easier if we thought we could understand that Trump or Trump Inc. isn't likely to benefit directly from his decisions....

dstieger wrote:



So if a liberal majority PERCEIVE a conflict of interest then Trump is mandated to act?

Perception is not nearly as important as reality. And we'll be in a downward spiral until we realize this as a nation.
And this is especially true because of social media and fake news and web blogs and even Trumps Twitter account.
Don't ever let a majority opinion (ie public perception) dictate fact vs fiction.

teedubbya
9 years ago

So if a liberal majority PERCEIVE a conflict of interest then Trump is mandated to act?

Perception is not nearly as important as reality. And we'll be in a downward spiral until we realize this as a nation.
And this is especially true because of social media and fake news and web blogs and even Trumps Twitter account.
Don't ever let a majority opinion (ie public perception) dictate fact vs fiction.

tailgater wrote:




yup. way too much of it. it is actually scary. seems like 47% don't care one way, 47 don't care the other and 5-6% sort of want the truth.

Maybe I'm in here to much but I am convinced many in here have no interest in the truth.
jjanecka
9 years ago
TW of course it doesn't matter because when you are rich you can do whatever you want.
frankj1
9 years ago
Just ask Bernie Madoff
teedubbya
9 years ago

Just ask Bernie Madoff

frankj1 wrote:




Is that the dude that invented fire?
Abrignac
9 years ago

Is that the dude that invented fire?

teedubbya wrote:




No, that was Seymour Boutte. Never mind, he invented the mini-skirt.
delta1
9 years ago
And wrote the book "My Life Under the Toilet."
teedubbya
9 years ago
I thought that was Moe Doody
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