Abrignac
9 years ago
The most overturned court circuit upheld the TRO on the travel ban.
elRopo
9 years ago
And if Trump is smart? He'll wait until the supreme court is properly aligned before filing the appeal.
fiddler898
9 years ago
Right. Let's keep targeting the religious. That'll make America great again.


Brilliant!
elRopo
9 years ago
Well, offhand I can't recall any mention of Canadians or Japanese wanting to kill or terrorize Americans so, they weren't included in the ban. Only seven of nearly fifty Muslim majority countries were included in the ban.
elRopo
9 years ago
If Japan was banned would it be a Buddhist ban?
frankj1
9 years ago
White Supremacists born in the USA have proven to be a zillion times more likely to perform acts of terror on our soil.

But the most effective way to become a despot is to scare people so deeply that they willingly give up freedom and rights in cowering prayers for security...
elRopo
9 years ago
Would be immigrants in other countries have no rights under our constitution. There is no constitutional right to immigrate. How is this giving up our freedom?
frankj1
9 years ago

Would be immigrants in other countries have no rights under our constitution. There is no constitutional right to immigrate. How is this giving up our freedom?

elRopo wrote:


you aren't wrong, but at least admit that the impetus for this swift move has been nurtured by a false marketing campaign meant to convince Americans that their lives and jobs are in danger from these immigrants....

it has zero to do with just enforcing laws.

Where did your relatives come from?
Abrignac
9 years ago

Where did your relatives come from?

frankj1 wrote:



O'er yonder
elRopo
9 years ago
What I'm saying is that we have the right to pick and choose who we want and when we want them. I believe Trump is saying the same thing. Simple as that.
frankj1
9 years ago

What I'm saying is that we have the right to pick and choose who we want and when we want them. I believe Trump is saying the same thing. Simple as that.

elRopo wrote:


we agree about deciding who gets in.
We disagree about Trump saying the same thing.

But it is well documented we have way more to fear from US born White Supremacists and yet no fear mongering campaign has been foisted on us.

Is this about safety in his mind?
frankj1
9 years ago

O'er yonder

Abrignac wrote:


me too!
elRopo
9 years ago

we agree about deciding who gets in.
We disagree about Trump saying the same thing.

But it is well documented we have way more to fear from US born White Supremacists and yet no fear mongering campaign has been foisted on us.

Is this about safety in his mind?

frankj1 wrote:


Do you deny that there are people in those banned countries that would harm Americans if given the chance? Why let them come here?
elRopo
9 years ago
The Arian's are here already, just saying.
Abrignac
9 years ago
It's nothing but political hay. Both, Clinton and Obama spoke out about the need to carefully screen immigrants. It was ok though as they were standard bearers of the left. But when Trump does it, it's like he $hit down the throat of Lady Liberty.
frankj1
9 years ago

Do you deny that there are people in those banned countries that would harm Americans if given the chance? Why let them come here?

elRopo wrote:


none from those countries have done harm, so why not a ban on the countries that produced both proven terrorists and have Trump Hotels?

There are people from Minnesota who fit your description.
frankj1
9 years ago

The Arian's are here already, just saying.

elRopo wrote:


Iranians are Aryans, not Arabs...just saying.
Abrignac
9 years ago

none from those countries have done harm, so why not a ban on the countries that produced both proven terrorists and have Trump Hotels?

There are people from Minnesota who fit your description.

frankj1 wrote:



That's like saying if we can't stop everyone we shouldn't stop anyone. FWIW, I'd have no problem extending the ban to Saudi's as well.

Another excellent reason to open up more coastal areas to drilling. If we produced an extra 5 million barrels of oil daily over our current production we could watch the Saudi's grasp on geopolitics weaken significantly.
elRopo
9 years ago

It's nothing but political hay. Both, Clinton and Obama spoke out about the need to carefully screen immigrants. It was ok though as they were standard bearers of the left. But when Trump does it, it's like he $hit down the throat of Lady Liberty.

Abrignac wrote:



What he said.
frankj1
9 years ago


What he said.

elRopo wrote:


OK

we'll just ignore those countries that have attacked us.
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