Hillbillyjosh770
9 years ago
Yall need to become better friends with yalls doctors,

10 pounds of deer jerky, and a half dozen deer sheds is what it cost me for my yearly checkup.

All BS aside,

Do you really wanna know why the Gov, even pretends to care about your health?

Why the FDA has some of the lowest food regulations?

Work job with chit pay, forced to eat chit food, forced to take chit pills.

The answers maybe be conspiracies to some.

HOW CAN YOU HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YOU DONT EAT YOUR MEAT?
rfenst
9 years ago
Did House Members actually read the bill voting it?
DrafterX
9 years ago
prolly not... nobody read the first one either... 😟
Buckwheat
9 years ago

Don't expect anything soon. It still has to get through the senate and the pubs might not want to own what happens if it makes it.

tonygraz wrote:




I think the administration has counted this chicken before it hatched. I think the senate has it's work cut out on this one. 🌫
DrMaddVibe
9 years ago

I think the administration has counted this chicken before it hatched. I think the senate has it's work cut out on this one. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:



I agree. Shudda just let it implode on it's own weight.

Now, they own it. Better do something like actually READ THE BILL first before passing it to see what's inside it.

While I want there to be a positive outcome, we're talking about the Federal government here. Add the Legislative Branch that works only something like 3 months a year and it's a recipe for disaster.
delta1
9 years ago
If the Senate passes anything close to the House plan and it is implemented, a lot of poor and old people who have been sick or have any sort of medical condition won't have health insurance. The "high risk" pool for those with previous conditions will be vastly underfunded, even with the $8 Billion sweetener thrown in to entice moderates to vote for this. For Americans who don't have employer provided health insurance, who have to buy individual health insurance policies, getting sick will mean bankruptcy...

The big GET for the GOP was the repeal of the Obamacare subsidy for Medicaid that was paid for by tax surcharges on the wealthiest of Americans. That group of two percenters and the health insurance industry were the real winners of the day....a very good day for the the least needy among us...

Even President Trump said that the single payer system in Canada and Australia is better than this plan...
dstieger
9 years ago
delta1, I still struggle with the (more and more commonly accepted) concept that quality health care is a right. Or, that everyone is 'entitled' to the 'highest quality' care.

For any other kinds of insurance, higher risk, means higher cost. I don't grasp why that is a problem in health insurance. For that matter, why is 'pre-condition' some sort of third rail. Seems to me that someone with a known condition ought to face higher insurance costs...higher risk/higher cost.

Seems rather fundamental to the whole concept of 'insurance'.
Stinkdyr
9 years ago

What I want is $3 penecillin tabs open market. I can get those in India, Russia, and probably Europe.

What drove up costs to begin with was that the FDA began mandating and deeming that common drugs were far too dangerous for the populace because a hanful of individuals abused them. You lower costs on medicine? You want lower premiums? Force the FDA into less regulation of free market good and I gaurantee costs overall will be reduced.

jjanecka wrote:




There is nothing wrong with the health care industry that the FREE MARKET would not fix in a nano-second, if only our corrupt gubment and our ignorant voter base would embrace FREEDOM....but that is too much to ask, I know.

🌫
Stinkdyr
9 years ago

delta1, I still struggle with the (more and more commonly accepted) concept that quality health care is a right. Or, that everyone is 'entitled' to the 'highest quality' care.

For any other kinds of insurance, higher risk, means higher cost. I don't grasp why that is a problem in health insurance. For that matter, why is 'pre-condition' some sort of third rail. Seems to me that someone with a known condition ought to face higher insurance costs...higher risk/higher cost.

Seems rather fundamental to the whole concept of 'insurance'.

dstieger wrote:




There is nothing wrong with the health care industry that the FREE MARKET would not fix in a nano-second, if only our corrupt gubment and our ignorant voter base would embrace FREEDOM....but that is too much to ask, I know.

🌫
tripleguy
9 years ago

delta1, I still struggle with the (more and more commonly accepted) concept that quality health care is a right. Or, that everyone is 'entitled' to the 'highest quality' care.

For any other kinds of insurance, higher risk, means higher cost. I don't grasp why that is a problem in health insurance. For that matter, why is 'pre-condition' some sort of third rail. Seems to me that someone with a known condition ought to face higher insurance costs...higher risk/higher cost.

Seems rather fundamental to the whole concept of 'insurance'.

dstieger wrote:



So only the wealthy get quality health care? Ensures fitness of the gene pool. I'd be all for that and eliminating pre existing conditions if we ensure easy access to abortion, allow assisted suicide, set limits on care for premature birth conditions and birth defects, etc. Can I be on the panel that decides this stuff? Thumbs up or down! Turn it into a reality show - self funding.
delta1
9 years ago
or we can adopt the gladiator model...sick and poor people who can't afford health insurance and medical care have a choice to die in the streets or climb into an arena and fight to the death (no firearms - they might kill somebody important)...the survivor gets free life-time health insurance for him/herself and family...he/she can then make a lot of money by successfully defending the title by winning the next competitions...or just take the medical insurance...

This is an example of "work for health insurance" that combines America's need for entertainment, athletic events and blood-letting...sponsored by Aetna, Blue Cross and United Healthcare...
DrafterX
9 years ago
Let's do it..!! 🤣
frankj1
9 years ago
a lot of the angry rustbelt voters that helped sweep Trump into office are going to get crushed by this...

I have a feeling the Senate may keep several provisions though.
DrafterX
9 years ago
That's what Pelosi wants you to think. .. 😟
frankj1
9 years ago

That's what Pelosi wants you to think. .. 😟

DrafterX wrote:


don't know the guy
tailgater
9 years ago

a lot of the angry rustbelt voters that helped sweep Trump into office are going to get crushed by this...

I have a feeling the Senate may keep several provisions though.

frankj1 wrote:



My man, since the election we've been hearing about how Trump's voters are going to rue the day.
Higher taxes. Fewer services. No healthcare coverage.
Heck, they won't even get the 72 virgins promised by Obama.

Time to lose that threat and step into reality.
Hospitals won't be unplugging patients and costs aren't going to triple.

frankj1
9 years ago

My man, since the election we've been hearing about how Trump's voters are going to rue the day.
Higher taxes. Fewer services. No healthcare coverage.
Heck, they won't even get the 72 virgins promised by Obama.

Time to lose that threat and step into reality.
Hospitals won't be unplugging patients and costs aren't going to triple.

tailgater wrote:


specifically the angry, under employed, unemployed, never-were-in-the-recovery rustbelt-ish voters who bought into the Reality TV show...not all of Trump's voters, but these poor shlubs...they are goners, and it is sad.
DrafterX
9 years ago
I heard Pelosi and others saying this stuff. . It's just not true... they are trying to scare you... 😟
frankj1
9 years ago
I honestly never hear nor read anything from Pelosi.

Tell me how the people I am singling out will benefit.
tailgater
9 years ago

specifically the angry, under employed, unemployed, never-were-in-the-recovery rustbelt-ish voters who bought into the Reality TV show...not all of Trump's voters, but these poor shlubs...they are goners, and it is sad.

frankj1 wrote:



Oh those.
They're expendable.

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