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Burner02
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#21

If President Trump has a hair on his azz, he will reopen the Hilldog server investigation and see where the Russian collusion really leads.

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#22

Yep... Would be hard to say No Thanks... But if his head has to roll to finally put an end to this mess so be it... There's more important stuff going on... They can try to remove Trump in 3 1/2 years the normal way... 😟

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#23

Yep. And investigations need to check to make sure that this information wasn't funneled through a private foreign national from the Russian govt. It's what good investigations do.

I've never said he's doing anything illegal. Bit everything they continually admit to is unsavory at best. And surely suggests there is something worse or at least so incompetent it borders on negligence.

(Lets not forget that none of these meetings or trips ever showed up on self reported security forms... so it looks like they thought they could hide them)

Burner02
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#24

(Lets not forget that none of these meetings or trips ever showed up on self reported security forms... so it looks like they thought they could hide them)

victor809 wrote:

And your gal, Hillary pure as the driven snow.

LMFAO

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#25

... not president. Making up some fiction of how you think she would have acted is simply not reality.

dstieger
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#26

Well I would want to find dirt internationally on hillary to help my father lambast his opponent in the political debates. It's what good sons do.

jjanecka wrote:

Yep. And since we all know full well that Russians only come up with info through hard work and studying open-source, commonly available data...why would Junior think that anything could go wrong?

Burner02
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#27

... not president.

victor809 wrote:

Based on her pre-election actions. Fact not fiction. Middle America not as dumb as the east and west coast.

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#28

... not president. Making up some fiction of how you think she would have acted is simply not reality.

victor809 wrote:

let's say donald trump personally and directly paid vladmir putin for damaging information about hillary... is that any different than what hillary did in regards to "paying" debbie wasserman shcultz to ensure she got the democratic nomination? they both just seem like crappy backroom political stuff that we all know both sides engage in... is it somehow worse because donald won and she lost?

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#29

Hahahah....

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#30

The **** dem from FL is the equivalent of Putin? Wow just wow. Y'all would have your hair in fire if a dem was working with Putin for personal gain. Most of you accused eff face hill of it with the uranium sale.

Jr was just being transparent. The fact he hid this this long and released the emails only after the NYT said they were going to and he asked for time is coincidence. No one listing any of these meetings on required forms is just an oversight too.

Forget your politics. Come on man.

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victor809
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#31

I expect internal political backstabbing opel. I don't care if one dem or rep screws another internally in the party. Once you take it out of the country and let a foreign country have the opportunity to screw around... that's a little different.

At best it's horrendously naive ...

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#32

That's a pretty big word.. 😟

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#33

In fairness it also looks like one or both sides used British intel. No one is clean,certainly not scum Hillary. But the gyrations to defend trump are amusing. As is the yea but Hillary defense lol.

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#34

victor809 wrote:

what makes it different? not being a d*ck, I seriously don't understand why collusion is ok when it's in-party, but not ok when it's international...

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#35

By the way I doubt Trump knew anything about this meeting. He seems like the hands off type and those around him just do what they choose LOL.

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#36

In fairness it also looks like one or both sides used British intel. No one is clean,certainly not scum Hillary. But the gyrations to defend trump are amusing. As is the yea but Hillary defense lol.

teedubbya wrote:

the excuse I heard with hillary and the dnc collusion was, hey, like it or not, it's not illegal... I have no idea why this trump/russia thing is viewed any differently...

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#37

My answer on that Opel is it's not ok in either instance. But colluding with (not saying it happened) an enemy state and their intel agents makes it ten times worse in my eyes. One is bad dirty politics. One relies on a country and leader that is our enemy and hates us. They don't want what's best for us. There is no moral equivalency there and that does not mean one is ok.

Reagan is rolling over in his grave. The fact many think it's ok for a pres candidate to work with Russian intel in an attempt to win is disturbing, let alone not being concerned about a sittingpresident and these ties. And again I've not drawn conclusions and am not saying it happened. But the concern is legitimate and the desire to ignore it or worse legitimize it is concerning. We in many ways are still in a Cold War with them.

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teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#38

the excuse I heard with hillary and the dnc collusion was, hey, like it or not, it's not illegal... I have no idea why this trump/russia thing is viewed any differently...

opelmanta1900 wrote:

Not from me and wgaf what someone you disagree with and think is wrong says. If you disagreed in that instance certainly you disagree now. You didn't change your opinion based on what those scum balls said did you? Are you wanting to become more like them to the point that you don't even care if it was Putin?

And while I don't think what they did was right it was internal within their party. While wrong it's not hard for me to decide it's different than with Putin

This may ultimately lead to criminal charges somewhere. I've never thought that before. But the last shoe hasn't fallen and this just wiped away many many denials. The continual lies from this admin are deafening to anyone who cares to listen.

This isn't going to end well and it's not the press' fault as **** as they are. Yes they suck. No that's not cover or excuse for Trump.

Edited by user 9 years ago | Reason: Not specified

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#39

teedubbya wrote:

enemy state??? you're stuck in the past... not what, 40 to 50 years before reagan, germany was up to some sh*t that makes russia look like a rag-tag group of girl scouts selling counterfeit thin mints, and yet many on the left are on hands and knees kissing merkels crack... what the actual f*ck? and you think hillary clinton "wants what's best for us"? no way man... she wants what's best for her and hers and that's that... she'd gladly sell this country to moscow if they promised to make her queen...

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

9 years ago

#40

come on man. I hate Hillary too but we are talking about putin here.

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