teedubbya
8 years ago
This has been traditionally a 10 team league rather than a 12 team last year was the exception usually you would add a flex spot etc. when you have more teams and less players available that said I don't care it's just my Pinyan
gummy jones
8 years ago
Lots of talent available with only ten teams. Usually enough to have expanded standard rosters and still a bunch of guys on waivers.

I'd at least prefer a flex instead of a 3rd wr but if no one else agrees no big deal
teedubbya
8 years ago
Sounds like change for the sake of change to me. It's traditionally been a 10 team league (once or twice 12) for about a decade or more without issue. It's tried and true.

That said I'm one person one vote and can't pay as much attention this year. I'm also not opposed to change at all given a compelling reason other than I prefer it..... or other leagues..... the talent depth doesn't ring true given this has almost always been a 10 team league so that's no change (other than from last year).

I also accept things evolve and change necessitating adjustment. I'm not aware of anything changing.

My one vote is nay unless a good reason for doing so is present. So far I see none.

Meh
gummy jones
8 years ago
So you vote no because this is how it's always been. I think that's a fine reason actually. I play in 8-13 leagues per year for at least the last 20 years and am aware of all formats. I'm comfortable with all formats. This was merely a suggestion I wanted to throw out there.

The reason for the change in positions is a more dynamic active rosters with the large amount of talent that is available in 8 and 10 man leagues that otherwise sits on the bench and waiver wire. I'm not suggesting change for the sake of change anymore than you are suggesting not change for the sake of not change.

You've never heard of a flex? It's not a new concept. In fact qb wr wr rb rb te flex is the most used format in leagues.
teedubbya
8 years ago
I play in several leagues a year and have for decades as well. That's pretty meaningless to me because I'm sure most of us have played in multiple leagues for years. I doubt any of us know much more than the average among us. I know I'm no expert.

Some of my leagues have flex, some 2qbs etc.... not sure why you think I've not heard of these things. Weird. I've given no information from which to draw that conclusion.

This league has been my favorite for a decade or so. It's been the traditional non flex format all along. We have made some tweaks along the way when the majority wanted them, and assume we will in the future.

We get a new team or two every year and with them come new ideas (yours is not new and has been discussed in the past as well). No one is opposed to change if it makes sense. I've not seen a problem in need of a solution and am not inclined to support it unless I do. I'm not opposed to change and would go with the flow if others see it different. Flex is no big deal nor is it super intelligent or meaningful particularly in a 10 team league. And yes I've read many of the pro con debates that are chicken eggish and drone on never ending with no conclusion. I'm not opposed to it just see no need.

I am just one vote who has stated their opinion. Someone may want to switch to keeper, play 2 QB (particularly in 10 league), IDP rather than DST, kicker/defense combined, no defense, QBs get 6 rather than 4 for touchdowns thrown etc. meh we consider them and if that's what most want that's cool by me. We could do all kinds of changes every year and they have been on the table.

I'm not the league. Personally I'd need to be convinced of the need or how the change would better the league. It's just how I think. Others may think differently. Meh. Let me know how it plays out lol. I vote nay but could change my mind if given a good reason/rationale. This has just been my favorite league year in, year out. It's worked and it's usually very competitive.

Why would I support changing something that could change that dynamic without hearing a really good reason why? Id rather change my other leagues to be more like this one.


Transparency on edits - I changed a few comments because on reread they came off different than where I am really at. I'm not passionate either way. Just a nay vote.
teedubbya
8 years ago
And let's be clear. I'll be in Europe during part of the season and even if I could will not be paying attention like usual. I won't neglect it or give away games but y'all will kick my ass.
gummy jones
8 years ago

I play in several leagues a year and have for decades as well. That's pretty meaningless to me because I'm sure most of us have played in multiple leagues for years. I doubt any of us know much more than the average among us. I know I'm no expert.

Some of my leagues have flex, some 2qbs etc.... not sure why you think I've not heard of these things. Weird. I've given no information from which to draw that conclusion.

This league has been my favorite for a decade or so. It's been the traditional non flex format all along. We have made some tweaks along the way when the majority wanted them, and assume we will in the future.

We get a new team or two every year and with them come new ideas (yours is not new and has been discussed in the past as well). No one is opposed to change if it makes sense. I've not seen a problem in need of a solution and am not inclined to support it unless I do. I'm not opposed to change and would go with the flow if others see it different. Flex is no big deal nor is it super intelligent or meaningful particularly in a 10 team league. And yes I've read many of the pro con debates that are chicken eggish and drone on never ending with no conclusion. I'm not opposed to it just see no need.

I am just one vote who has stated their opinion. Someone may want to switch to keeper, play 2 QB (particularly in 10 league), IDP rather than DST, kicker/defense combined, no defense, QBs get 6 rather than 4 for touchdowns thrown etc. meh we consider them and if that's what most want that's cool by me. We could do all kinds of changes every year and they have been on the table.

I'm not the league. Personally I'd need to be convinced of the need or how the change would better the league. It's just how I think. Others may think differently. Meh. Let me know how it plays out lol. I vote nay but could change my mind if given a good reason/rationale. This has just been my favorite league year in, year out. It's worked and it's usually very competitive.

Why would I support changing something that could change that dynamic without hearing a really good reason why? Id rather change my other leagues to be more like this one.


Transparency on edits - I changed a few comments because on reread they came off different than where I am really at. I'm not passionate either way. Just a nay vote.

teedubbya wrote:



you use a lot more paragraphs to spell "nay" than i do

notice how in the above post i stated that i actually think "weve always done it like this" in a long standing league is a reasonable objection.

at least you didnt stray from your trademark tone
but i do appreciate the edits 🇨🇮
LetsRock
8 years ago
Decision made...setting stay as is...THE COMMISH HAS SPOKEN!!
LetsRock
8 years ago
Does anyone know Bobby from the Tittsburg Feelers? Seems as if he has renewed but haven't heard from him at all/
RMAN4443
8 years ago

PM's sent with both paypal acct and addy...whatever works best for you. I would like to have everyone paid before the season starts so there is no drama.

LetsRock wrote:


Could you send the addy and paypal info again.
I also realize the decisions have been made,but just wanted to throw my two cents in.....I agree with gummy about the flex player,this will be the first league I've been involved with that won't have a flex position
Also,I'll be at work during the draft,and unable to participate......will there be an option for the draft for the puter to make my picks?I've never been involved in a draft where I wasn't present so I'm not really sure how this will work.
Thanks
RMAN4443
8 years ago
maybe I jumped the gun......not sure if I'm even in........my name is not on the list.............did I miss the cut?
LetsRock
8 years ago

maybe I jumped the gun......not sure if I'm even in........my name is not on the list.............did I miss the cut?

RMAN4443 wrote:



You are the 1st alternate. we are checking on Bobby...if he cant play you are in for #10. Or if Bobby is in and we get one more we can have a 12 player league.
LetsRock
8 years ago
Anyone hear from DH from the Vinegar Stokes. He has renewed buy don't recall hearing from him.
LetsRock
8 years ago
I am also updating post #1 as I receive payment.
grege93
8 years ago
I am already paid!🇨🇮
Aug 21st
LetsRock
8 years ago

I am already paid!🇨🇮
Aug 21st

grege93 wrote:



yes you are...my bad...Adam sent me a message, thought it was a payment...post#1 corrected.
LetsRock
8 years ago
Ok so I haven't heard from Vinegar Strokes so we still need one more. Anyone...Anyone...Bueller??
LetsRock
8 years ago
gummy jones...check received. Post #1 has been updated.
coolbreeze68
8 years ago
LetsRock
8 years ago

paypal sent

coolbreeze68 wrote:



Got it and updated.

As of now we only have 9 teams and we need an even number....Anyone else want in? I haven't heard from Vinegar Strokes so if he is out we are down to 8 and will need to adjust the payouts.
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