Poll Question: ?
dstieger
8 years ago

Like I said before.....

Let them return to their country of Origin and Make It Great Again....We owe them NOTHING...let THEOR own government create opportunities for them...THERE.


BUILD THAT WALL


And END the Anchor Baby Program ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!

TMCTLT wrote:




Who's stopping them?

What's your plan, Paul? Just how are you going to deport 800,000 dreamers? And will you do it before/at the expense of deportation of criminals and other non-dreamers?

I get you hate illegal immigrants. There has never been any question as to your stance there. But, how are do you propose to execute your vision? The deportations? Funding an impenetrable border? Slogans and principles are great. Reality sometimes gets in the way of ideals...Instead of yelling about the problem....what's the solution?
ZRX1200
8 years ago
Foreign college tuition not in state.

Punish employers who hire illegals.

It will fix itself.
TMCTLT
8 years ago

Who's stopping them?

What's your plan, Paul? Just how are you going to deport 800,000 dreamers? And will you do it before/at the expense of deportation of criminals and other non-dreamers?

I get you hate illegal immigrants. There has never been any question as to your stance there. But, how are do you propose to execute your vision? The deportations? Funding an impenetrable border? Slogans and principles are great. Reality sometimes gets in the way of ideals...Instead of yelling about the problem....what's the solution?

dstieger wrote:



LMAO....why the F would they leave when we roll out the RED CARPET for them????

MANY / MOST.....got here on their own, STOP supporting them or creating opportunities for them and they'll SELF DEPORT...just like they SELF ARRIVED ILLEGALLY. Someone needs to explain to these brats that their parents are LAW BREAKERS who are NOT to be rewarded for their actions. These brats stand on the steps of our State Houses with their Mexican flags demanding one thing after another....WE OWE THEM NOHING
I think all of you who are so ready to take these little darlings who DEMAND they get to stay and use untold amounts of OUR resources need to sign up to care for and financially support them, lets see just how generous you really are.
DrafterX
8 years ago
:-k
If I support one how long do I get to keep it..?? I could use some help around the house and stuff... 😟
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

Any time the "think of the children" argument comes up, it's because they're trying to take away your money.

Anytime they equate something to nazis, it's because they're trying to take away your rights.

bgz wrote:




POST OF THE YEAR CANDIDATE!!!!
Mr. Jones
8 years ago
I
A.B.S.O.L.U.T.E.L.Y.
LOVE IT WHEN...

CHEETO YELLS TO CONGRESS...

"DO YOUR JOB"...

concerning recinding DACA legislation...
Why??? he didn't just grab ANOTHER
YUUUUUGGGGEEEE
BLACK LEGAL SIZED LEATHER BINDER....

AND MAKE ANOTHER
EXECUTIVE ORDER ( like barry) and he did every day
For his first 3 months in office...
I'll never know...
TMCTLT
8 years ago

I
A.B.S.O.L.U.T.E.L.Y.
LOVE IT WHEN...

CHEETO YELLS TO CONGRESS...

"DO YOUR JOB"...

concerning recinding DACA legislation...
Why??? he didn't just grab ANOTHER
YUUUUUGGGGEEEE
BLACK LEGAL SIZED LEATHER BINDER....

AND MAKE ANOTHER
EXECUTIVE ORDER ( like barry) and he did every day
For his first 3 months in office...
I'll never know...

Mr. Jones wrote:




I'm guessing because EO's can be reversed with the next sitting POTUS...where if done by Congress it would have to be Undone by Congress.
Mr. Jones
8 years ago
#84 drafter....

Just ask
Sara McLaughlin the unkown singer hippie Chick who schills on late night "off channels" TV for
Animal cruelty....

She starting a new charity... "Adopt a DACA SPAWN"
And make them legal...FOREVER...
dstieger
8 years ago
🙂 Sometimes, Mr. Jones, you are funny when you're trying to be
delta1
8 years ago
I dunno...who we gonna blame for our problems if we get rid of all the illegals?


The 1% at the top did more damage to this country (and the world) and hurt many more people about 10 years ago than the 800K DACA dreamers have or will ever do...but we gave them a pass...and they are building steam and getting ready to drop the next load of cr*p on all of us...anyone paying any attention at all to Wells Fargo?
DrafterX
8 years ago
Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is encouraging her supporters to “fight with everything” they've got to defend the Obama-era program that stops illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. at a young age from being deported.


But just a few years ago, in an interview that has resurfaced online, Clinton called for sending back illegal immigrant children who crossed the border to “send a clear message” that such crossings won’t be tolerated by the United States.

That interview, conducted in June 2014 on CNN, has been shared online by critics as Clinton protests President Trump’s decision to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, program.

“We have to send a clear message, just because your child gets across the border, that doesn't mean the child gets to stay,” Clinton said at the time. “So, we don't want to send a message that is contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey.”

Film at 11.... 😟
delta1
8 years ago
dat bitch...she musta thought she was in the Fox studio...
DrafterX
8 years ago
Abrignac
8 years ago

I dunno...who we gonna blame for our problems if we get rid of all the illegals?


The 1% at the top did more damage to this country (and the world) and hurt many more people about 10 years ago than the 800K DACA dreamers have or will ever do...but we gave them a pass...and they are building steam and getting ready to drop the next load of cr*p on all of us...anyone paying any attention at all to Wells Fargo?

delta1 wrote:



So you're going to use deflection to justify something? Weak sauce...
Abrignac
8 years ago

Agree that not acknowledging the 'illegal' part is totally inexplicable. But, I do have some compassion (see, Jones!) for those that came here as minors without choice.

Don't have all the small details worked out, but my wife has a plan that I can get behind:

- Dreamers can stay and even work towards citizenship if they meet some criteria

Arrived as minor
Been here more than 5 years
No criminal convictions -- need to work out exactly where this line will be drawn, but I might even include truancy
Pass a 'rudimentary' English test
Mandatory 2 years public (or military) service
Once mandatory service complete, they can be issued a Green Card


'Future' illegal minors who manage to hide for more than five years might get dreamer opportunity...not sure yet...maybe with increasing length of public service? After 2020, three years? After 2025, five years?....I don't want to encourage future illegals, so, I'd make the risk increasingly great....but, I'm a long ways from deporting every illegal...especially those that came here as minors....even later

The cost of a government managed compulsory service program scares me...somehow it needs to be offset by the dreamer labor/service...I'll figure that part out later

The more I think about it, the more that I can probably get behind compulsory service for our citizen kids, too...6 months, maybe....a year even?...completed between ages of 17 and 24?

dstieger wrote:



I have to disagree. We are either a country of laws are we are not. Kinda like pregnancy. Doesn't matter if conception happened 2 seconds ago 115 days ago. It's still a pregnancy.

There should be absolutely no incentive to break laws. Yet, the left wants to welcome them with open arms. They allow them to attend college at in-state rates, they receive better healthcare than veterans wounded in service to our country. Why? Because this isn't about humanitarianism to the left, it's because they expect that the vast majority of those who entered this country illegally if allowed to stay will vote democratically. In other words, this entire charade is about using the Federal treasury to by votes for the democratic party.
DrafterX
8 years ago
I'm still puzzled by the evil 1% thing... These are the guys that employ millions of tax paying property owners right..?? Yet they are the bad guys.. what if they took their money and closed up shop.. 😟
DrafterX
8 years ago
I'm still puzzled by the evil 1% thing... These are the guys that employ millions of tax paying property owners right..?? Yet they are the bad guys.. what if they took their money and closed up shop..?? 😟
DrafterX
8 years ago
Abrignac
8 years ago

Agree that not acknowledging the 'illegal' part is totally inexplicable. But, I do have some compassion (see, Jones!) for those that came here as minors without choice.

Don't have all the small details worked out, but my wife has a plan that I can get behind:

- Dreamers can stay and even work towards citizenship if they meet some criteria

Arrived as minor
Been here more than 5 years
No criminal convictions -- need to work out exactly where this line will be drawn, but I might even include truancy
Pass a 'rudimentary' English test
Mandatory 2 years public (or military) service
Once mandatory service complete, they can be issued a Green Card


'Future' illegal minors who manage to hide for more than five years might get dreamer opportunity...not sure yet...maybe with increasing length of public service? After 2020, three years? After 2025, five years?....I don't want to encourage future illegals, so, I'd make the risk increasingly great....but, I'm a long ways from deporting every illegal...especially those that came here as minors....even later

The cost of a government managed compulsory service program scares me...somehow it needs to be offset by the dreamer labor/service...I'll figure that part out later

The more I think about it, the more that I can probably get behind compulsory service for our citizen kids, too...6 months, maybe....a year even?...completed between ages of 17 and 24?

dstieger wrote:



I have to disagree. We are either a country of laws are we are not. Kinda like pregnancy. Doesn't matter if conception happened 2 seconds ago 115 days ago. It's still a pregnancy.

There should be absolutely no incentive to break laws. Yet, the left wants to welcome them with open arms. They allow them to attend college at in-state rates, they receive better healthcare than veterans wounded in service to our country. Why? Because this isn't about humanitarianism to the left, it's because they expect that the vast majority of those who entered this country illegally if allowed to stay will vote democratically. In other words, this entire charade is about using the Federal treasury to by votes for the democratic party.
DrafterX
8 years ago
And the childrens... They'll vote someday.. 😟
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